good and evil

[celticwillia]

Does anyone believe that god is in a fight for our souls with evil and that we are stuck in the middle and used as pawns

[naomi24]

No.

[naomi24]

Apologies. I should have said 'some may believe it, but I don't'.

[Lonnie]

Assuming that you believe in God, then he created everything there is, and there is nothing he can't do, why would he fight for something he could take with just a twitch of his little finger?.

So to echo naomi.

No.

[tiggerblue10]

No. Mankind is its own enemy.

[celticwillia]

So you all ignore all the signs of good and evil in this world and why a loving god that is all powerful chooses not to do anything to stop it, don't none of you ever ask why. That is what learning is all about, you see a problem and you find out about that problem. You ask yourself questions on why a loving god, has never lifted a finger to stop evil, you gather evidence on both sides to know what is going on, for it does not take a very bright person, to tell you, that their is something going on between good and evil and at the moment evil is winning.

[jno]

I don't see any evidence at all that there is more evil around than in, say, 1940. But if you think there is, perhaps you could do something about it yourself rather than waiting for God to fix it for you?

[naomi24]

What are these signs you think we're ignoring?

You say this God is all powerful, but if evil is winning, that can't be true, can it? If it were, then as Lonnie says, there would be no fight.

[celticwillia]

So you add mitt their was evil in 1940, that's a good place to start, then ask yourself why a loving god, let 6,000,000 Jews suffer

[naomi24]

Atheists have already asked that question, which could be one of the reasons they are atheists, but since you apparently know the answer, you tell us.

[Razzle09]

The pawns have free will. We make choices as the nations in 1940 who choose to ignore the suffering of the Jews....

[LazyGun]

No God.
No Satan.
No Heaven.
No Hell.
No Soul.
No moral absolutism.

[celticwillia]

So you all have asked the Questions on good and evil, god and the devil and every answer you get, brings you all to the point that it is all hog wash, I was the same as you, every Question I asked about good and evil, The answers I got back were from JC and Christian followers, quoting the bible, which got me no where, then I went to the man himself, JC. watched his films, read his books, just the bible story's and parables and low and be hold, their it was starring me in the face. When he said, that man kind would be blind and deft to his message on the real reason why he came, so that told me there and then, that their is another reason why he came, saving our souls was just apart of it. And their is so much more.

[naomi24]

Sorry, I'm not with you. Who is this 'man himself JC', who makes films and writes books?

You say there is 'so much more', but that means nothing to anyone, so why don't you tell us about it?

[Oneeyedvic]

then I went to the man himself, JC. watched his films, read his books

Is JC Jeremey Clarkson? Read a couple of his books and seen his TV shows, but never seen one of his films. Which one would you recommend?

[LazyGun]

celticwillia, your last post was a very badly punctuated, poorly spelt jumble of words and phrases rendered meaningless to anyone but those willing to spend about 10 minutes attempting to decipher it.

If you wish to make a case and engage the interest of the posters here,rather than leaving the impression that you are a raving crackpot, please remember to use punctuation, improve your spelling, and THINK about the point you wish to make BEFORE you start typing.

[beso]

From what I have read in the Bible, God and Satan are the same thing.

[Ankou]

"Does anyone believe that god is in a fight for our souls with evil and that we are stuck in the middle and used as pawns?"

no the superwoers and world leaders are fighting for power influence and wealth and we are just pawns in their game. god and satan comes in handy when the pawns need a prod.

[bricro]

no!

[Lonnie]

celticwillia, you say that God is a Loving God, I beg to differ, in the Old Testament, God was an unforgiving God, a killer and Conquerer, and if you didn't do as he said, you were punished, sometimes with death.

Just when did he become Loving?.

As the Jew swere going into the Gas Chambers, some said, 'it is the will of God'

I was born just after the second War, but I would take issue with that statement, unless of course, the real God, (if there is one), is still the God of the OT.

[celticwillia]

That is were you go wrong, reading the old testament. That takes you away from the true love in Jesus Christ. If you believe that Jesus Christ is the son of god, then you will know, that he is a loving god.