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Wow! watching this really made me see what is wrong with this country. Its immigrants!!! The way they come over and antagonise us Brits by walking on the pavements and stuff made me sick. I really can see why people are so keen on here to promote the BNP and make sure they have a voice.
only joking of course
That show summed up everything that is wrong with everything in Britain. People need to take a good long hard look at what WE are before accusing innocent immigrants of ruining this country.
I realise there is so far no question so........ who watched this and felt proud to be a Brit?
only joking of course
That show summed up everything that is wrong with everything in Britain. People need to take a good long hard look at what WE are before accusing innocent immigrants of ruining this country.
I realise there is so far no question so........ who watched this and felt proud to be a Brit?
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The fact that there are yobs living in working class areas should come as no surprise to anyone. The same people who tormented the couple of Asian origin would pick on anyone. It's not so long since we were reading of a mother who killed herself and her handicapped daughter because they were picked on by local teenagers.
The man who came out of his home to chase off the yobettes who were trying to rob the woman did a brave thing.
There are good and bad in most areas. The pity is, we're giving the bad a free hand to do as they please.
The man who came out of his home to chase off the yobettes who were trying to rob the woman did a brave thing.
There are good and bad in most areas. The pity is, we're giving the bad a free hand to do as they please.
All they did was the equivalent of plonking a few Spurs fans in the Arsenal end. Proved nothing, they showed there are some enclaves of intollerent yobs on Sh1th0le council estates, no sh1t Sherlock. in 99.9% of Britain you'll be run in for even thinking the P word or N word. Most of Britainistan isn't like that. Even on the estate in question, some of the locals came to the aid of the undercover journos.
I did not see the programme but I am aware of its content.
There have always been people like this in the UK. They lead vacuous lives without any purpose (other than procreating more of their kind) and fill their time being offensive towards others. Strangely one of their main gripes towards immigrants seems to be that they are here taking “their” jobs. Odd when one looks at the number of jobs that most of them have ever held (usually nil to the nearest whole number). Regular AB-ers will no doubt recall some of my posts which have suggested that an influx of foreign labour would not be necessary if we got some of those already here off their backsides. So the cause of the necessary influx is mainly due to the fecklessness of those very people already here but unwilling to work, who moan about incomers taking their jobs. And their fecklessness and attitudes have been countenanced by government (of all persuasions).
The big difference now to, say, fifty years ago, is that such people are now encouraged to believe that their chosen lifestyle is quite acceptable and will be funded by the taxpayer. They go on to believe that to harass immigrants if perfectly legitimate and very often they are not stopped.
Until people who adopt such a lifestyle out of choice become castigated and stigmatised as they were some years ago, and until the criminal justice system provides appropriate punishment for those who commit hate crimes, they will continue as they are. Which I believe will be some time yet.
There have always been people like this in the UK. They lead vacuous lives without any purpose (other than procreating more of their kind) and fill their time being offensive towards others. Strangely one of their main gripes towards immigrants seems to be that they are here taking “their” jobs. Odd when one looks at the number of jobs that most of them have ever held (usually nil to the nearest whole number). Regular AB-ers will no doubt recall some of my posts which have suggested that an influx of foreign labour would not be necessary if we got some of those already here off their backsides. So the cause of the necessary influx is mainly due to the fecklessness of those very people already here but unwilling to work, who moan about incomers taking their jobs. And their fecklessness and attitudes have been countenanced by government (of all persuasions).
The big difference now to, say, fifty years ago, is that such people are now encouraged to believe that their chosen lifestyle is quite acceptable and will be funded by the taxpayer. They go on to believe that to harass immigrants if perfectly legitimate and very often they are not stopped.
Until people who adopt such a lifestyle out of choice become castigated and stigmatised as they were some years ago, and until the criminal justice system provides appropriate punishment for those who commit hate crimes, they will continue as they are. Which I believe will be some time yet.
I entirely agree with Sandy-Wroe there are good and bad in most people, immigrants and the indigenous population.
It is interesting to see how easy it is for some to be brain-washed, all it takes is for a professional unit from the BBC to stage manage a situation, they picked the location and then dropped a victim into it. Almost the same tactics that an Angler uses, pick your spot, bait your hook and then wait for the fish to bite.
As I have said many times I am fed up with some of the media, forever producing programmes that have only one purpose and that is to illustrate how bad the whites treat those of a different skin tone to them.
Yet some of them kill with knives and guns frequently, others plot and sometimes succeed to blow us up, yet how many exposé type of programmes on these do we see, the answer none why, because it would expose the downside of immigration and we could not have that could we?
It is interesting to see how easy it is for some to be brain-washed, all it takes is for a professional unit from the BBC to stage manage a situation, they picked the location and then dropped a victim into it. Almost the same tactics that an Angler uses, pick your spot, bait your hook and then wait for the fish to bite.
As I have said many times I am fed up with some of the media, forever producing programmes that have only one purpose and that is to illustrate how bad the whites treat those of a different skin tone to them.
Yet some of them kill with knives and guns frequently, others plot and sometimes succeed to blow us up, yet how many exposé type of programmes on these do we see, the answer none why, because it would expose the downside of immigration and we could not have that could we?
My wife lived in two suburbs of Birmingham in the 1960s and 1970s - Small Heath and Sparkhill.
At the time these were quite nice (if poor) areas of almost totally white people.
Her parents loved gardening and she would look out her bedroom window at the back of the house and see people's gardens and they were all clean, with nice lawns, flower beds, greenhouses and small areas growing vegetables and fruit.
Gradually Asians (mostly) moved in and you have never seen an area go downhill so quickly. As the Asians moved in the whites moved out.
My wife's mothers lived there until about 5 years ago (almost the only white in the street), and if you looked out the back window now you saw rubbish piled high, cheap extensions built of breeze blocks, fences made of corrugated metal, rats running around. It was like a Dehli shanty town.
Sparkhill and Small Heath are now DUMPS. Although they are on the main road onto Birmingham (Stratford Road) I always find another way into Birmingham by car as it makes me cry to drive through them.
THATS why people dont want Asians to live in their area. Name me ONE area in England that the arrival of Asians has actually IMPROVED. None probably.
Sugest those of you who have no first hand experience go and visit Sparkhill and see what effect mass Asisn immigration has done to this country.
At the time these were quite nice (if poor) areas of almost totally white people.
Her parents loved gardening and she would look out her bedroom window at the back of the house and see people's gardens and they were all clean, with nice lawns, flower beds, greenhouses and small areas growing vegetables and fruit.
Gradually Asians (mostly) moved in and you have never seen an area go downhill so quickly. As the Asians moved in the whites moved out.
My wife's mothers lived there until about 5 years ago (almost the only white in the street), and if you looked out the back window now you saw rubbish piled high, cheap extensions built of breeze blocks, fences made of corrugated metal, rats running around. It was like a Dehli shanty town.
Sparkhill and Small Heath are now DUMPS. Although they are on the main road onto Birmingham (Stratford Road) I always find another way into Birmingham by car as it makes me cry to drive through them.
THATS why people dont want Asians to live in their area. Name me ONE area in England that the arrival of Asians has actually IMPROVED. None probably.
Sugest those of you who have no first hand experience go and visit Sparkhill and see what effect mass Asisn immigration has done to this country.
No I didn't feel proud to be British and hate these sorts of feral yobs with a passion, Of course I have compassion for those bullied like this. I'm just pinting out that the program is not representative of Britain generally. I thought the football analogy was a perfect parallell to what Panorama did last night.
Oh, and I nearly forgot amid all my ranting.
Yes, I am proud to be British, but I’m not proud of this type of behaviour. Fortunately the mindless yobbery under debate is still quite rare, though it is increasing and its effect is far out of proportion to the number of participants.
Most British people are fair minded, well behaved and not only tolerant but actually get on well with most others, provided such behaviour is reciprocated. That large majority deserves better from the authorities who are supposed to govern and regulate behaviour in accordance with the law. At the moment the deal between the public and the State (where individuals forgo the right to punish those who offend against them on the understanding that the State will do so on their behalf) is being sorely tested and in many other countries would have seen direct action by now.
Yes, I am proud to be British, but I’m not proud of this type of behaviour. Fortunately the mindless yobbery under debate is still quite rare, though it is increasing and its effect is far out of proportion to the number of participants.
Most British people are fair minded, well behaved and not only tolerant but actually get on well with most others, provided such behaviour is reciprocated. That large majority deserves better from the authorities who are supposed to govern and regulate behaviour in accordance with the law. At the moment the deal between the public and the State (where individuals forgo the right to punish those who offend against them on the understanding that the State will do so on their behalf) is being sorely tested and in many other countries would have seen direct action by now.
A week or so back the police in Birmingham started to target drivers with no insurance (or Tax or MOT).
The DVLA told them the WORST area in Birmgham for that was Sparkhill and the Stratford Road. This is an almost totally Asisn area (see my append above).
In fact the police said the area was almost "lawless" when it came to obeying the driving laws.
"Insp Sally Seeley, from the Sparkhill neighbourhood team, said: “Lawless would not be too strong an expression to describe the attitude of a lot of drivers in these areas"
Article from local paper.
http://tinyurl.com/yg4gqts
THIS is why people get so annoyed about the mass immigration of Asians into the country, and the arrival of Asians in to their area.
The DVLA told them the WORST area in Birmgham for that was Sparkhill and the Stratford Road. This is an almost totally Asisn area (see my append above).
In fact the police said the area was almost "lawless" when it came to obeying the driving laws.
"Insp Sally Seeley, from the Sparkhill neighbourhood team, said: “Lawless would not be too strong an expression to describe the attitude of a lot of drivers in these areas"
Article from local paper.
http://tinyurl.com/yg4gqts
THIS is why people get so annoyed about the mass immigration of Asians into the country, and the arrival of Asians in to their area.
sherminator, you asked who watched this and felt proud to be a Brit?
Why should the large proportion of British (I use the full word, because I deem it offensive to be called a "Brit") not feel proud to be British, just because we witness yobs, there is no reason not to.
Ask a Muslim if he feels proud to be a Muslim, when he sees extremists at work?
Ask a black person if he feel proud to be black, when he sees gun & knife crime?
Stop blaming yourself (if you are British) for all the worlds ills.
Why should the large proportion of British (I use the full word, because I deem it offensive to be called a "Brit") not feel proud to be British, just because we witness yobs, there is no reason not to.
Ask a Muslim if he feels proud to be a Muslim, when he sees extremists at work?
Ask a black person if he feel proud to be black, when he sees gun & knife crime?
Stop blaming yourself (if you are British) for all the worlds ills.
VHG, you have hit the nail right on the head there. I am not a brummie but i only live about 10 miles away in walsall and the same thing has happened there namely Caldmore and the Pleck they may as well be some shanty town suburb of Bombay or Islamabad.when i was a kid these were pretty respectable area's but like Sparkbrook, Small Heath etc when the Asians moved in respectable white families moved out.
AOG,
I know you are outraged and aggreived by any view that doesn't correspond exactly to your own, but maybe the media is showing those sorts of shows after your bed time? There are loads of them.
Immigrants: The Inconvenient Truth, Channel 4, and The Truth about Immigration, Tonight With Trevor MacDonald, ITV1 are just two of the programmes in the last year to have tackled the very subject you're asking them to cover.
Meanwhile, if you've not see the mnay, many documentaries about black gun crime, young Asians being drawing into Muslim fundamentalism or Eastern Euopean gangs trafficking women then you're even more blinkered than you come across.
I know you are outraged and aggreived by any view that doesn't correspond exactly to your own, but maybe the media is showing those sorts of shows after your bed time? There are loads of them.
Immigrants: The Inconvenient Truth, Channel 4, and The Truth about Immigration, Tonight With Trevor MacDonald, ITV1 are just two of the programmes in the last year to have tackled the very subject you're asking them to cover.
Meanwhile, if you've not see the mnay, many documentaries about black gun crime, young Asians being drawing into Muslim fundamentalism or Eastern Euopean gangs trafficking women then you're even more blinkered than you come across.
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>And in this war to protect our green and pleasant land our front-line troops are foul-mouthed adolescents
Well if the politicians wont do anything what can you do.The main parties have virtually abandoned the white working class in this country.
Many working class jobs have gone, yet we allow hundreds of thousands of people into this country, many of them totally unskilled, unable to speak English, unable to integrate.
Yet the labour and tory politicians carry on as though it was not a problem. They will not even TALK about immigration, let alone do anything about it.
I am afraid if it carries on like these we are liikely to have a civil war.
Well if the politicians wont do anything what can you do.The main parties have virtually abandoned the white working class in this country.
Many working class jobs have gone, yet we allow hundreds of thousands of people into this country, many of them totally unskilled, unable to speak English, unable to integrate.
Yet the labour and tory politicians carry on as though it was not a problem. They will not even TALK about immigration, let alone do anything about it.
I am afraid if it carries on like these we are liikely to have a civil war.
I have been going round Birmingham recently photographing old factories (many of them closed down) before they are pulled own for good.
Birmingham used to have a proud tradition of manufacturing (ALL of the metal used in the Crystal Palace building was made in Birmingham). But almost all manufacturing has gone.
But does Birmingham shout about its great manufacturing tradion, making the "whites" of Birmingham feel proud of the city the built up. NO.
I went into the Birmingham tourist information centre over the weekend, and there were brochures and posters everywhere for "Black History Month" (a racist event if ever there was one).
Nobody promoting what the whites did, who have lived and worked here for 70 years.
No, we shout about the black population, whose contributions to society include race riots, muggings, drug dealing and drive by shootings.
THAT is why most poor, uneducated white people feel cut off from everything, we bend over backwards to "help" the Muslims, the Blacks, the Asians, but the whites can bu**er off.
Birmingham used to have a proud tradition of manufacturing (ALL of the metal used in the Crystal Palace building was made in Birmingham). But almost all manufacturing has gone.
But does Birmingham shout about its great manufacturing tradion, making the "whites" of Birmingham feel proud of the city the built up. NO.
I went into the Birmingham tourist information centre over the weekend, and there were brochures and posters everywhere for "Black History Month" (a racist event if ever there was one).
Nobody promoting what the whites did, who have lived and worked here for 70 years.
No, we shout about the black population, whose contributions to society include race riots, muggings, drug dealing and drive by shootings.
THAT is why most poor, uneducated white people feel cut off from everything, we bend over backwards to "help" the Muslims, the Blacks, the Asians, but the whites can bu**er off.
