Good Grammar... please come back

[INQUISITOR63]

Is it I ( Not is it Me !)....or ........... are there any other people out there ......who hate/s bad grammar ? ------{ perhaps that should be.... "is there ....people" ( sing noun )...but it doesnt sound right.}
it is so prevalent these days especially on the telly. Even news readers say "I was SAT there, or I was STOOD there instead of, what we were all taught at school , i.e. "seated" and "Standing". The BBC announcers are no exception to this either. --- what a dreadful inheritance this is from what was always regarded as the pillar of English excellence.
Perhaps its because so many interfering govt education departments have seen in their wisdom to eradicate all proper grammar from school curricula over so many years. Also when we were greeted with "how are you?" we always said "fine thank you ". where /when did this Americanism crawl in from ? -- " Im good !" Surely this latter was meant to signify how excellent you were at something ......... but certainly not Grammar , it seems .

[cazzz1975]

the moral of the tale is that language is ever evolving..

[B00]

haha Tiggs, very good, i see what you did there ;-)

[MarkRae]

> I understandeth

I'm afraid you don't...

[tiggerblue10]

Sounds more like Dwayne Dibbly to me!

[B00]

With an overbite than can open beer bottles?

yeah you could be right.

[ludwig]

// So would it be ok to say: The man and his wife is going shopping.
or
William and Kate is getting married soon. //

Both of those are fine as long as they are followed by 'Innit'

[Sqad]

ludwig...LOL

[tiggerblue10]

Don't you mean "innit tho" Ludwig?

[ludwig]

yeah, I think you is right tigs innit.

[vivandorron]

Boyo...I don't know what yous getting at..but I'm Welsh so doesn't speak proper like. But me do try hard to make my self understanded in the columns of AB look you.

Personally. I don't think AB is the place to have a discussion on English Grammar . Surely there are some sites on the Internet that are dedicated to the subject concerned.

Ron

[Quizmonster]

The American, "I'm good" - in response to "How are you?" etc - is not so very different from the British, "I'm all right", and WE'VE been using that for the past couple of hundred years. Most thesauri list good and right as synonyms after all. The process of importing words and phrases and the constant evolution of language are simply givens, whether we like it or not.

[wildwood]

I believe it is mandatory to make grammar/spelling mistakes at forums. It gives other members a laugh and get their chip off [from] their shoulder.

[mike11111]

'Is it me?' is not bad grammar. 'Me' in this case is the emphatic, disjunctive pronoun, cf the French 'moi'. You would say, 'that's him' - 'that's he' just sounds so silly.

People is a singular collective noun with a plural meaning and takes the plural form of the verb.

[mike11111]

Nor is 'I was sat/stood' necessarily wrong. Active: 'The teacher stood the boy in the corner'; Passive: 'The boy was stood in the corner by the teacher'.

[A.Guest]

Well said mike - you're no dunce.

[MarkRae]

> 'Is it me?' is not bad grammar. 'Me' in this case is the emphatic, disjunctive pronoun, cf the French 'moi'. You would say, 'that's him' - 'that's he' just sounds so silly.

It does, but it's not incorrect, Cf "It is he who committed the crime". The theory being that the verb 'to be' carries the notion of the subject of the sentence, usually without an object.

E.g. "I see you". 'I' is the subject and 'you' is the object.
But with something like "It is I.", both 'It' and 'I' refer to the subject of the sentence.

[TTG]

Bad grammar I can handle. What is bad is the increase in the constant use of the "F" word in everyday speak.

[frameshift]

No, I am the same. Some of the bad grammar and spelling today, is unbelievable. Even on the New Scientist for instance, in the comments by readers to articles. 'Your', when it should be 'you're', 'their' and 'there' and 'where' and 'were' interchanged. To make these mistakes, the person can have no concept of language grammatical rules, that I can see.
You mention the BBC. I remember something called BBC English: what a joke today. The standards at school are appalling and despite what is said by politicians they have been steadily slipping since the sixties. My son, who gained 13 'O' levels, mainly A*, actually asked me when do you use the construction 'I have' and when 'I of'?!! I couldn't believe that he held an English 'O' level to A* grade. In addition, what incensed me was the abandonment of all punctuation for addresses, etc in a letter. I was informed that since not everybody could get it right it made sense to abolish the rules, so that all addresses were correct.