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B.N.P battle for Barking
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Just watched this on T.V, I missed the first half hour watching Frankie Boyle worth seeing very funny.
A few things struck me, many of the people who said they were going to vote B.N.P were not racist, they were fed up.
They were fed up of politicians who don't answer questions, fed up of politicians who don't give straight answers, fed up of politicians who refuse to give you their opinions.
I don't live in a corpy house, never have, my Mum does, so I don't know about housing policy, but there was a woman there who said she just wanted to be treated fairly, can't argue with that sentiment even if her belief is erroneous.
I'd suggest that the problem is poor government housing policy, most notably right to buy.
They had an old man on, who was a racist, but his statement was the most telling "I'm voting B.N.P because nothing ever changes" that disaffection is rife and it's largely accurate.
The gap between rich and poor is wider than ever, the poor have seen no significant change in their status for 30 odd years.
Our economic policies are designed around debt, the nation's whole lifestyle is predicated on debt, cheap loans, not wages.
This gap will remain for the foreseeable future, job insecurity via short term contracts and tuition fees will dissuade poorer families from further education.
Politicians should take note, they ignore this seething mass of people at their peril.
History teaches us that when the poor feel alienated it's the immigrants, the minorities and the weakest that get the blame.
Not a question really just a statement, did anyone else see it?
What did you think?
A few things struck me, many of the people who said they were going to vote B.N.P were not racist, they were fed up.
They were fed up of politicians who don't answer questions, fed up of politicians who don't give straight answers, fed up of politicians who refuse to give you their opinions.
I don't live in a corpy house, never have, my Mum does, so I don't know about housing policy, but there was a woman there who said she just wanted to be treated fairly, can't argue with that sentiment even if her belief is erroneous.
I'd suggest that the problem is poor government housing policy, most notably right to buy.
They had an old man on, who was a racist, but his statement was the most telling "I'm voting B.N.P because nothing ever changes" that disaffection is rife and it's largely accurate.
The gap between rich and poor is wider than ever, the poor have seen no significant change in their status for 30 odd years.
Our economic policies are designed around debt, the nation's whole lifestyle is predicated on debt, cheap loans, not wages.
This gap will remain for the foreseeable future, job insecurity via short term contracts and tuition fees will dissuade poorer families from further education.
Politicians should take note, they ignore this seething mass of people at their peril.
History teaches us that when the poor feel alienated it's the immigrants, the minorities and the weakest that get the blame.
Not a question really just a statement, did anyone else see it?
What did you think?
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Dr, why didn't you just say that in the first place instead of going all round the houses?
From what little you've said, feel free to add more, it all counts, but race played no part in your family's inability to be rehoused.
The housing policy, was arguably flawed, but didn't the N.F promote a campaign of immigrants getting preference with housing etc. in the 70s?
With regard especially to Ugandan, Indian refugees, the more things change the more they stay the same.
From your example it would appear she's erroneous, but at least you understood fully what was happening and didn't fall for simplistic nationalism.
Hope that wasn't too long for you ;-))
From what little you've said, feel free to add more, it all counts, but race played no part in your family's inability to be rehoused.
The housing policy, was arguably flawed, but didn't the N.F promote a campaign of immigrants getting preference with housing etc. in the 70s?
With regard especially to Ugandan, Indian refugees, the more things change the more they stay the same.
From your example it would appear she's erroneous, but at least you understood fully what was happening and didn't fall for simplistic nationalism.
Hope that wasn't too long for you ;-))
everton in that side streeet let us say that you have lived there for 3 years they wanted you out and would give you a choice of 3 other modern properties. this was so ex cons could have a fresh start once the house had been modernised
my parents on the other hand had lived there for 36 years , waiting for over 2 years to be moved . unable to decorate or do anyting because they would be moved out very soon . 1 week to into a month , 1 month turned into 2 months etc
could be next week was the reply then wait another 2 months , they had never missed a rent payment in all those years
do you think it was fair for the people who had lived a couple years in that side street to be given priority over others to help the ex cons.
seems crime does pay sometimes
my parents on the other hand had lived there for 36 years , waiting for over 2 years to be moved . unable to decorate or do anyting because they would be moved out very soon . 1 week to into a month , 1 month turned into 2 months etc
could be next week was the reply then wait another 2 months , they had never missed a rent payment in all those years
do you think it was fair for the people who had lived a couple years in that side street to be given priority over others to help the ex cons.
seems crime does pay sometimes
Why would anyone consider voting B.N.P because of an unfair housing policy for any reason other than race?
I'm unaware of any pronounced, rehousing, rehabilitating, reintegrating ex-cons policy of their's.
At least Society in his own circuitous way has tackled part of the question, and if nothing else he's also demonstrated that the lady is wrong to assume that immigrants get preferential treatment, so she is erroneous, due, by his definition, to "poor government housing policy", I can at least thank him for that.
Naomi, you've had 6 goes at this thread and said absolutely nothing, so apart from your usual obfuscation, perhaps you'd care to grace us with your views on the B.N.P and the current inability of the main political castes to engage with the poor and working class?
Or not, as the case maybe....
I'm unaware of any pronounced, rehousing, rehabilitating, reintegrating ex-cons policy of their's.
At least Society in his own circuitous way has tackled part of the question, and if nothing else he's also demonstrated that the lady is wrong to assume that immigrants get preferential treatment, so she is erroneous, due, by his definition, to "poor government housing policy", I can at least thank him for that.
Naomi, you've had 6 goes at this thread and said absolutely nothing, so apart from your usual obfuscation, perhaps you'd care to grace us with your views on the B.N.P and the current inability of the main political castes to engage with the poor and working class?
Or not, as the case maybe....
re housing lists :- my grandaughter who was born & bred in Islngton has one little boy and she was told it would be very unlikely she would ever get a council property in that borough, even if she did qualify and an immigrant walked through the door with bigger family/needs than her, they would take the keys and hand them to the immigrant.
In the end we all clubbed together to help her get a deposit for a place in another borough even though her mum and all her friends were there, the alternative being have more kids which she wisely said she could not afford.
We seem to becoming 2nd class citizens in our own mother country.
In the end we all clubbed together to help her get a deposit for a place in another borough even though her mum and all her friends were there, the alternative being have more kids which she wisely said she could not afford.
We seem to becoming 2nd class citizens in our own mother country.
No thanks Everton. It’s abundantly clear that you’ve completely lost the plot where I’m concerned and I wouldn’t want to be responsible for you having a heart attack. By the way, Society hasn’t contributed to this thread at all. It was Dr Filth who asked the same question as me. Funny how it didn’t have the same effect on you though. Au revoir. ;o)
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