What will the atheists say when...

[sandyRoe]

While walking my dogs this morning beside the lake I fell into a reverie.
I imagined a time in the far distant future when most ABers were in Heaven. The atheists, though bemused, were as happy as anyone else to be there. But they soon moved to a remote corner of Elysium and began a debate.
'If we don't believe in this place how can we be here?'

Will you, if you're an atheist, be happy to admit you're wrong?

[joko]

I think a great number of atheists would love to believe...would love the opportunity to say "i was wrong, god and heaven exists" after having been given undeniable proof... but unfortunately common sense prevails

its the same as how we'd all love to believe in santa etc, but we just cant...

[Frank97]

Yes of course, I'm not too big to admit when I'm wrong as indeed I often am.

[Hopkirk]

If heaven is going to be full of christians going on and on, then quite frankly I don't fancy it.

[sunny-dave]

^^^^^^^^^ @Hopkirk - Best Answer :)

[MarkRae]

What possible need could an omnipotent and omnipresent creator have for his creations to believe in him, or for those of his creations who do believe in him to praise him?

[sandyRoe]

Everybody like a bit of ego boosting.

[MarkRae]

Well, that's me convinced!

[LazyGun]

Better to fall into a reverie than into the lake i suppose. Soggy thinking though, either way.

This is just a version of Pascals Wager.

No heaven.No hell. No evidence of heaven. Yours and your fellow travellers faith in such a construct is all that sustains it as a concept.

Show me a devout amputee whose prayers for a regrown limb have been answered Sandy. Show me a real-time re-alignment of the stars in the firmament that spell out jehovah. No? Thought not..

[Hopkirk]

Is my wife going to heaven?

[jackthehat]

We wouldn't be there.....

'No-one can come to the Father except through the Son' and our failure to recognise the authority of Christ would mean that our names wouldn't even be on the guest-list.....

[vetuste_ennemi]

Joko, why do think a lot of us would like to believe in heaven etc? There's nothing agreeable about descriptions in, say, Revelation.

Admittedly the Koranic paradise is a little more agreeable than the servile bowing and scraping of St. John'd heaven. It does involve totty and (presumably non-alcoholic) wine.

[Hopkirk]

I need to know, because if so I don't want to go.

[sandyRoe]

Might be like Valhalla...

[MarkRae]

You're winning convert after convert here with your wise and reasoned rhetoric...

[sandyRoe]

I'm not trying to convince anyone except myself.

[MarkRae]

What is so broken inside you that you need religion...?

[bednobs]

i would say "well i believed in you deep down anyway. now... which way to the milk and honey and virgins"

[Hopkirk]

Let's say a man is very happily married, is widowed and remarries.

He is lucky to find wonderful love a second time.

When he and wife 2 die and go to heaven, does he end up with two wives in the afterlife?

Doesn't sound like heaven for the two women.

[Zeuhl]

<<I'm not trying to convince anyone except myself>>

So when will it start working?