What would the world be like without religion?

[rov1100]

We could still retain our personal beliefs but without establishments and organised worshipping their would surely be less troubles in the world

[jomifl]

Mark, my opinion of the bible doesn't require that I read it. But I do take your point.

[MarkRae]

> my opinion of the bible doesn't require that I read it.

Have you any idea just how ignorant that makes you sound...?

[Craftypig]

What would the world be like without religion?

It would still be full of idiots who would find something to kill each other over...

[DTCwordfan]

Another Zilele Lui Daniel cut and paste from Elderman - nothing original there.

[jomifl]

Mark, If you think my comment makes me sound ignorant then consider that you are as ignorant of my opinion as I am of the bible, possibly because I haven't given my opinion. I haven't read the bible in any of it's many versions so I am ignorant of it's contents. Presumably you haven't read all of them either so you also are ignorant of some or much of it. I do not discuss the detail of the bible because I don't claim and never have claimed to know anything about it's contents. In the context of this discussion the content of the bible is irrelevant since it is not what it is claimed to be. It is not necessary to dismantle a watch to to tell the time, you just look a the hands.

[mibn2cweus]

//What Would The World Be Like Without Religion?//

It’s a big mistake to grant religion the status of sole cause when it is merely a large contributor to and manifestation of the problems we face as a potentially rational species struggling to overcome ignorance and embrace the virtue of reason. The problem with religion is that it does not promote the search for solutions but instead encourages followers to seek resolution beyond the grave through submission to the alleged arbitrary dictates of an imaginary overseer of reality.

While eliminating religion as an alleged alternative to knowledge and reason would expose the need for and lack of those essential attributes, overcoming the consequential damage done by and in the name of religion continues to be a major hurdle to future progress. What is needed now, as always, is a realisation that there never was an alternative to genuine knowledge, reason and understanding in concert with a revitilisation of the will to embrace our humanity and our birthright to pursue our own well being and happiness in this one life we’ve been given. This world belongs to everyone in proportion to our willingness to acknowledge responsibility for our own lives and happiness and to the extent of our ability to find ourselves worthy of it. There is no second chance nor alternative to this reality.

[MarkRae]

> I haven't read the bible in any of its many versions so I am ignorant of its contents.

Quite.


> Presumably you haven't read all of them either so you also are ignorant of some or much of it.

Of course I have read all of it, though admittedly not for quite some time. It's one of the most influential books in all literature.

[seadogg]

Most of the world's population are denied taking responsibility for their own reality, mores the pity.

[MarkRae]

No.

[jomifl]

Mark, it isn't 'it' it is 'them', all of the versions in all the languages.

[naomi24]

Mark, sorry, but it seems to me there's a bit of a misunderstanding here between you and Jomifli. He doesn't appear to doubt that you've read the bible, but he said //Presumably you haven't read all of them//, meaning every version. And in fact they do differ. For example in a well known verse, one particular translation replaces the word 'love' with 'charity' - and of course the two words are not actually synonymous.

[owdhamer]

religion works for the arms dealers

[MarkRae]

I accept your apology, Naomi. Not quite sure why you're apologising to me, though...

[naomi24]

Mark, a figure of speech - nothing more.

[MarkRae]

Yep, a figure of speech used to express regret for something. Are you sorry for what you posted...?

[naomi24]

No. Stop being awkward.

[Elderman]

The Bible does not state specifically how often we ought to read it. However, it does record God’s counsel to Joshua to ‘read in the book of the law in an undertone day and night’ so that he would act wisely and have success in carrying out his God-given assignment. (Joshua 1:8) It tells us that whoever ruled as king over ancient Israel was to read the Scriptures “all the days of his life.” (Deuteronomy 17:19)

It further states: “Happy is the man that has not walked in the counsel of the wicked ones . . . But his delight is in the law of God, and in his law he reads in an undertone day and night.” (Psalm 1:1, 2) Also, the Gospel recorded by Matthew tells us that when Jesus Christ rejected Satan’s efforts to tempt Him, He quoted from the inspired Hebrew Scriptures, saying: “It is written, ‘Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every utterance coming forth through God’s word.’” (Matthew 4:4) How often do we need physical food? Every day! Taking in spiritual food daily is even more important because it affects our prospects for eternal life.— John 17:3.

[LazyGun]

Or, we could reject all the fairy tales, recognise that we have one shot at life here on earth, and do all we can to help ourselves and others enjoy a worthwhile and fruitful time here. How about that?

[Elderman]

LazyGun.......clever you ,you got it