Leviticus and who gets what

[beso]

Leviticus goes on and on in the Bible about which individuals and their sons should get what share of the meat.

So God thought this worthy of being included in the enduring advice to everyone??

Sounds far more in common with the wisdom of the greedy pigs in Orwell's Animal Farm than anything worthy of exalted status.

What other parts of the Bible are clearly just rubbish written by those who seek to assert their own interests by pretending their selfishness was heavenly inspired truth?

[RATTER15]

<<<pulls up an armchair :-)

[vulcan]

never understood the reason for listing all the begatting

[beso]

The Bugatti was a revolutionary car.

Oh sorry, Begatting.

[beso]

Actually there is reason for all the begatting.

Its rhythmical repetition at the beginning is meant to be hypnotic. Those who fall into the spell can go on to read the rest of it without noticing the vile nature of the deeds described.

Those who don't get hypnotised just get bored and don't get to the gory details.

My advice to all. Just skip on through to Joshua. Honest you won't be able to put it down. In there is described the archetypal worst of human behaviour glorified and exalted as the will of God.

[beso]

Just watch the Jews at the Wailing Wall or the boys reading the Koran. They rock back and forth like the hypnotist's watch.

[woofgang]

<<sits down next to Ratter, opens popcorn>>

[chakka35]

Leviticus is a long long list of do's and donts which regulated the life of a Jew from dawn to dusk and should be of no interest to anyone else.

But Christian and other homophobes latch on to just one of these rules ('When a man lieth with a man..etc..") while cheerfully ignoring all the others.

I have yet to hear any explanation for this from the bigots concerned. Would one of them care to explain here?

[naomi24]

Jesus takes some beating in the selfish stakes.

//If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.// (Luke 14:26)

[goodlife]

No,When Jesus was discussing what is really involved in being his true follower, he said: “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own soul, he cannot be my disciple.” (Luke 14:26)

Jesus obviously did not mean that his followers should literally hate their family members, since he commanded people to love even their enemies. (Matthew 5:44) Rather, Jesus here meant that his followers must love family members less than they love God. Is good to In keep with the right understanding.

[MarkRae]

He also doesn't score too highly in tolerance stakes either:

Luke 19:27 - "But those enemies of mine who do did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me."

Of course, the standard Christian get-out clause says that it's not meant to be taken literally... ;-)

[FredPuli43]

Surprising that some of the stuff in the New Testament got past the editors [v. Mark's quote] ! Presumably, they thought it suitable for their times.

[naomi24]

Goodlife, We’re talking about selfishness here – and yes, Jesus did say ‘love one another’, but clearly he’d rather his followers love him more – even if that means abandoning their families, so yet another biblical contradiction. Here’s another bit.

//Do not think that I came to bring peace on Earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.//

[goodlife]

Wrong, Jesus thus describing how the king of the prophetic parable would have his enemies slaughtered for not wanting him to be their king

As matters turned out, Jesus was executed like an accursed criminal on a stake outside the city walls.
As I said Is good to In keep with the right understanding.

[naomi24]

Goodlife //As I said Is good to In keep with the right understanding.//

What does that mean? If you're going to copy stuff, perhaps you should take the time to edit it so that it makes some sort of sense.

[tonyav]

RATTER or woolgang would you pass me a cold can please.

[starone]

<<pulls up another chair next to RATTER and Woofgang and pinches Woofgang's popcorn. Promises to buy the next bag.

[goodlife]

Nomi-Is the Scriptural message to be blamed for family rifts? Not at all. Rather, rifts are caused by the position taken by unbelieving family members. They may choose to reject or oppose Christianity, bringing about divisions in the family.—Luke 12:51-53.

[Quizmonster]

I quite like Jesus's apparent attitude to pædophiles as expressed in Luke XVII v 2...

"It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones."

One assumes that, if someone HAS committed an offence against a little one, the above would be an appropriate punishment.

[MarkRae]

Millstone has been interpreted as meaning "three months in an open prison" in modern terms - do keep up at the back, there... ;-)

[FredPuli43]

Goodlife, what is your authority for the proposition that Jesus was referring to what someone else would have done?
The quotation is from chapter 10 of Matthew,and is included in careful instruction to his disciples about what they are to do and expect; known as the Little Commission; and nowhere in that does he say that he is referring to what others expected him to teach, rather than what his message is.

Of course, to some extent, the quote supports the theory that Jesus was yet another Jewish leader but one whose death was treated by later followers as a martyrdom of the son of God. This is the man whose close disciple was carrying a sword at the time of his master's arrest, and used it to assault one of those arresting his master. It is a wonder that such a peace- loving group had anyone in their number who was armed at all, at any time.