Jehovah's Witness Website

[philipdalton]

Would anyone care to have a discussion on the articles on this website?
http://www.watchtower.org

[philipdalton]

'Did you want to discuss the JW website?'
Yes, I would like to discuss the articles on Christmas and the reasons why we don't celebrate it.
Did you already know that we didn't?

[naomi24]

Yes, I did. So what do you want to say?

[philipdalton]

If you browse through a few of these articles here you will discover for yourself the reasons why we don't celebrate it:
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q=christmas

[naomi24]

I've read it. Don't know about anyone else.

[philipdalton]

Perhaps it's time to talk about something else now, get onto another topic. Naomi24, you started a thread on 'who created the universe?' Would you perhaps like to have a debate on evolution.
Would you say evolution was just a theory, or can it be proven beyond a doubt to be a fact?

[naomi24]

philipdalton, I’m not an expert on evolution, but it’s true to say that it is an accepted science. It’s certainly a fact that life evolves.

[philipdalton]

Here are a few articles on the subject here:

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q=evolution

P.S. If life is evolving what changes do you think might have occurred in the human race in millions of years time?

[naomi24]

philipdalton, I doubt anyone is going to wade through all that. Why don't you tell us what you think so that we can discuss it?

I don't know what changes might occur to the human race over millions of years - but I'd like to.

[ludwig]

This could be a new strategy to replace cut and paste - just post a long list of links to the actual articles.

[naomi24]

Ludwig, bad strategy. ;o)

[philipdalton]

I think the best thing here would be to compromise by putting a link to just one article so we can discuss what that has to say:
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102010346?q=evolution&p=par

[sir.prize]

Whatever the views of JW's, they better not knock on my door again on December 25th.

[philipdalton]

sir.prize
I've heard that one before in the days before the Internet became popular

[naomi24]

philipdalton, do you think Darwin's tree has been chopped down?

[sir.prize]

phildalton - you probably have heard it before. But now that the Internet is here there are many pages which report the fact that because lots of celebrating people will be found at home on Christmas Day, it is considered a good day to call on them to distribute the Watchtower.

I for one don't appreciate it. Or should I?

[Truthabounds]

Naomi@
//Deserving’? That’s not the reason I give. If I were that judgemental, I wouldn’t give to some, but I do because I love my family and friends. I give because I want to.//

As mentioned on another thread, you got the wrong end of the stick. Deserving does not necessarily mean being judgemental. True, you give to those you love eg family & friends. I was referring to the fact that some people give because it is expected of them or because they received back and feel obliged to.

I give to my family and friends whenever the urge takes me or if I see something I know they will like.

But take the example of a naughty child. Would you give him a present after he has been particularly naughty, or would you wait until he was exceptionally good? If you gave him a gift after being naughty would that not mean you are rewarding his bad behaviour? Surely in this particular instance it would could be classed as meaning "he was not deserving" but later, if he did something particularly outstanding and you then gave him a gift, that would express your approval and love for him.

But I wait with bated breath for your twisted interpretation of this!

[naomi24]

Truthabounds, //I wait with bated breath for your twisted interpretation of this!//

Charming!

Why do the religious have a penchant for explaining their arguments by referring to the way we teach children and the punishment we mete out to them? We’re not talking about children. We’re talking about giving at Christmas.

[philipdalton]

I notice this thread has gone for almost a fortnight without any posts!

[boxtops]

Well there's a surprise, that's what happens to most of the threads on here when people are done with them.

In answer to your original question, no thank you, I'm not interested.

[RATTER15]

//I notice this thread has gone for almost a fortnight without any posts!//

Mmmmm, I cant imagine why!! it could be that people are bored to death with JW copying and pasting text or links to other web sites. Yaaawn!!!