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Do You See A Spiritual Immunity To The Moral Breakdown?
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The problem of the 21st century, “Men have forgotten God. . . . The entire twentieth century is being sucked into the vortex of atheism and self-destruction.”
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Goodlife, why do continue this silly nonsense?
The countries throughout the world with the lowest crime rates are all the ones with highest % of atheist, the countries with the highest crime and death rates are the most religious. Now stop talking rubbish and choose a subject that you actually know something about so you don't need to lie all the time. You really are getting boring now and nobody beleives a thing you say.
The countries throughout the world with the lowest crime rates are all the ones with highest % of atheist, the countries with the highest crime and death rates are the most religious. Now stop talking rubbish and choose a subject that you actually know something about so you don't need to lie all the time. You really are getting boring now and nobody beleives a thing you say.
Yes because when everyone believed in god the world was so peaceful !
History is riddled with people who believed in god but still killed and tortured under its name.
Henry the 8th believed in god but still killed many people who would not support HIS religion.
His daughter Queen Mary also believed in god, but decided to torture and burn at the stake anyone who did not agree with HER religion.
The Catholic church believed in god, but still sent out the Spanish Inquisition to tortue and kill anyone who did not become Catholic.
I could go on, but you get my point.
Believing in god has been one of the biggest causes of pain and suffering in history.
History is riddled with people who believed in god but still killed and tortured under its name.
Henry the 8th believed in god but still killed many people who would not support HIS religion.
His daughter Queen Mary also believed in god, but decided to torture and burn at the stake anyone who did not agree with HER religion.
The Catholic church believed in god, but still sent out the Spanish Inquisition to tortue and kill anyone who did not become Catholic.
I could go on, but you get my point.
Believing in god has been one of the biggest causes of pain and suffering in history.
What is a spiritual immunity anyway ? What has that to do with any moral breakdown, if there even is one, which is debatable ? How can one forget something which one doesn't believe there is any evidence of existance for ? Why would anyone try to link atheism with self-destruction save to persuade of a link that doesn't exist ? Why suggest without proof that critics of some book do not care about things unless it affects them ? If there any point to all this ?
Funny, because the quote was by Alexander Solzhenitsyn, only he said it in 1983 and used the words '20th century'.
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Are you guilty of lying or inadequate fact checking, Goodlife?
Incidentally, you didn't do me the courtesy of responding to my question here:
Whether in real life or cyberspace only, do you know TruthRebounds other than from posts made on Answerbank? If so, in what capacity do you know that poster?
Perhaps you could rectify that oversight now?
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Are you guilty of lying or inadequate fact checking, Goodlife?
Incidentally, you didn't do me the courtesy of responding to my question here:
Whether in real life or cyberspace only, do you know TruthRebounds other than from posts made on Answerbank? If so, in what capacity do you know that poster?
Perhaps you could rectify that oversight now?
Hi Goodlife.
Are you the same person as Truthabounds? Or two people in the same building? You don't seem to be able to answer my question.
Your last response on the issue was:
"Yes, you are following me around. You had better sort this out. How am I to get in touch with truthabounds? You email them you should have their email."
I'm trying to get to the bottom of it Goodlife, there's little need to pretend.
If you keep this up we'll have to remove this account as well.
Are you the same person as Truthabounds? Or two people in the same building? You don't seem to be able to answer my question.
Your last response on the issue was:
"Yes, you are following me around. You had better sort this out. How am I to get in touch with truthabounds? You email them you should have their email."
I'm trying to get to the bottom of it Goodlife, there's little need to pretend.
If you keep this up we'll have to remove this account as well.
@Goodlife - As McFroog pointed out, you are, once again, reverting to type and cutting and pasting. Now you are offering us a quotation with some powerful sounding rhetoric- talk of a vortex etc - but you fail to attribute the author of the quote, Alexandr Solzhenitsyn, one of the foremost writers of our times, thus denying him the recognition he deserves.
This is intellectual dishonesty on your part. Now, he is no fan of atheism, thats true, but he was a great writer, and i can respect that.
I am sort of surprised that you did not follow up with a quote from Carl Jung, who once wrote this - a quotation that more closely matches your question about "spiritual immunity" than the unattributed one from Solzhenitsyn, which only discusses the perceived dangers of the modern day.
"The individual who is not anchored in God can offer no resistance on his own resources to the physical and moral blandishments of the world. For this he needs the evidence of inner, transcendent experience which alone can protect him from the otherwise inevitable submersion in the mass. Merely intellectual or even moral insight . . . lacks the driving force of religious conviction, since it is merely rational.”
There is little or no objective evidence of a "vortex of self-destruction", except when said self-destruction is carried out in gods name by suicide bombers convinced of the sacredness and rightness of their cause, and willing to sacrifice believers and infidels alike on the altar of their delusion.
Quite the contrary - it is, in my view, one of the benefits of the 21st century that people increasingly are rejecting the irrationality of religion.
Please feel free to offer us quotations -but I ask you again to at least give the authors the attribution they deserve.
And you still argue from a position based upon subjective faith rather than objective evidence, which undermines your claim.
This is intellectual dishonesty on your part. Now, he is no fan of atheism, thats true, but he was a great writer, and i can respect that.
I am sort of surprised that you did not follow up with a quote from Carl Jung, who once wrote this - a quotation that more closely matches your question about "spiritual immunity" than the unattributed one from Solzhenitsyn, which only discusses the perceived dangers of the modern day.
"The individual who is not anchored in God can offer no resistance on his own resources to the physical and moral blandishments of the world. For this he needs the evidence of inner, transcendent experience which alone can protect him from the otherwise inevitable submersion in the mass. Merely intellectual or even moral insight . . . lacks the driving force of religious conviction, since it is merely rational.”
There is little or no objective evidence of a "vortex of self-destruction", except when said self-destruction is carried out in gods name by suicide bombers convinced of the sacredness and rightness of their cause, and willing to sacrifice believers and infidels alike on the altar of their delusion.
Quite the contrary - it is, in my view, one of the benefits of the 21st century that people increasingly are rejecting the irrationality of religion.
Please feel free to offer us quotations -but I ask you again to at least give the authors the attribution they deserve.
And you still argue from a position based upon subjective faith rather than objective evidence, which undermines your claim.
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