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Is This What Jesus Would Do?
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This behaviour seems more than a little unchristian - especially from someone sufficiently proud of their piety to mention the tithe they paid to God!
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Vindictive too, it would seem. Their original actions and subsequent vindictiveness in seeking the dismissal of the staff member, seem seriously at odds with someone devout enough and self righteous enough to mention the fact that they tithe to god!
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Vindictive too, it would seem. Their original actions and subsequent vindictiveness in seeking the dismissal of the staff member, seem seriously at odds with someone devout enough and self righteous enough to mention the fact that they tithe to god!
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Considered answer, OG - but honestly, in a group of 8 people with a bill for a total of 34 dollars - what does it say about someone that they feel it necessary to write some sort of snide commentary about the size of the automated tip? Hardly the waiting- on staffs fault that the restaurant has such a policy - and the way such staff are paid in the US is well known.
To add some kind of pious comparison to what they give - the degree of self-promotion, the holier than thou piety and pettiness required to pen such a note says to me that the person was not pleasant at all - and then to attempt to get everyone from the manager down sacked- even more evidence of a petty and vindictive nature, IMO.
Mind, I am aware that this is a story, and we are only seeing one side of it - but still.....
Considered answer, OG - but honestly, in a group of 8 people with a bill for a total of 34 dollars - what does it say about someone that they feel it necessary to write some sort of snide commentary about the size of the automated tip? Hardly the waiting- on staffs fault that the restaurant has such a policy - and the way such staff are paid in the US is well known.
To add some kind of pious comparison to what they give - the degree of self-promotion, the holier than thou piety and pettiness required to pen such a note says to me that the person was not pleasant at all - and then to attempt to get everyone from the manager down sacked- even more evidence of a petty and vindictive nature, IMO.
Mind, I am aware that this is a story, and we are only seeing one side of it - but still.....
id like to think this guy that left the note was making a stand against being forced to leave a tip, but i suspect he was just being an arse.
the problem is, not leaving a tip affects the wrong person - the company wont care or be affected one bit - which is what makes it so frustrating.
and the fact they sacked her just reinforces how little they care.
i annoys me too when restaurants add their own tip too - i will decide on how much i tip - and indeed whether to tip at all.
i think its outrageous that american businesses are allowed to take the p1ss with paying their staff, and expect the customers to pay even more than the usually inflated prices for the actual food, in order for the employee to take home a decent amount.
its time the laws were changed in america.
what annoys me more here is the words of the waitress - that she totally believes we OWE her the tip, that we HAVE to pay it and if we dont we are bad and wrong - no we are not.
they would actually follow you and demand their tip!
it is not our job to pay your wages - it is your employers
he workers there are so brainwashed with this system, they dont seem to see how wrong it is, and just blame the customers for their crap wages - instead of the true culprit here - the bosses.
i saw a message on failbook of some waitress b1tching about a customer who'd left his number on the bill in the hope of a date, but because he'd only left a $4.50 tip she sneered he had no chance because he was cheap ... then someone pointed out that the bill total was only about $11 .... so actually the tip was almost half his bill so actually very generous - and sneered back at her for missing out on a nice guy.
(sorry for the big moan there haha - just one of my pet peeves)
the problem is, not leaving a tip affects the wrong person - the company wont care or be affected one bit - which is what makes it so frustrating.
and the fact they sacked her just reinforces how little they care.
i annoys me too when restaurants add their own tip too - i will decide on how much i tip - and indeed whether to tip at all.
i think its outrageous that american businesses are allowed to take the p1ss with paying their staff, and expect the customers to pay even more than the usually inflated prices for the actual food, in order for the employee to take home a decent amount.
its time the laws were changed in america.
what annoys me more here is the words of the waitress - that she totally believes we OWE her the tip, that we HAVE to pay it and if we dont we are bad and wrong - no we are not.
they would actually follow you and demand their tip!
it is not our job to pay your wages - it is your employers
he workers there are so brainwashed with this system, they dont seem to see how wrong it is, and just blame the customers for their crap wages - instead of the true culprit here - the bosses.
i saw a message on failbook of some waitress b1tching about a customer who'd left his number on the bill in the hope of a date, but because he'd only left a $4.50 tip she sneered he had no chance because he was cheap ... then someone pointed out that the bill total was only about $11 .... so actually the tip was almost half his bill so actually very generous - and sneered back at her for missing out on a nice guy.
(sorry for the big moan there haha - just one of my pet peeves)
i think the customers anger was not the fact that she posted it - but that she left his name visible and he was found and his details posted - i too woul dhave kicked up a massive fuss if some waitress had done that to me in some sort of misplaced revenge.
i bet this guy got a barrage of abuse for this, and although his comment was a bit idiotic, he is entitled not to leave a tip if he doesnt want to and she has no right to cause him all that hassle just because she didnt like it.
i bet this guy got a barrage of abuse for this, and although his comment was a bit idiotic, he is entitled not to leave a tip if he doesnt want to and she has no right to cause him all that hassle just because she didnt like it.
@Joko I would agree with your general sentiment that paying very low wages to staff, then applying an automatic tip to the bill, which may or may not get distributed to the staff directly is wrong.
I too would prefer that such staff are paid something approaching a living wage, and not be so reliant on tips.
But that tipping culture and the lack of any floor to wages is part of the US culture. Anything else would be socialist! :)
And the diner in question - a female pastor no less - would, I assume, be fully conversant with that culture, and would know that it is not the chain that suffers but the waiting-on staff.
I too would prefer that such staff are paid something approaching a living wage, and not be so reliant on tips.
But that tipping culture and the lack of any floor to wages is part of the US culture. Anything else would be socialist! :)
And the diner in question - a female pastor no less - would, I assume, be fully conversant with that culture, and would know that it is not the chain that suffers but the waiting-on staff.