Did Jesus Survive The Crucifixion?

[naomi24]

I think he did. Any armchair detectives out there who would like to add their thoughts?

[LazyGun]

To be honest, I am not even entirely sure that the case that jesus even existed has been convincingly made, so for me that would be a no :)

[sandyRoe]

No. He was crucified, died, and was buried. On the 3rd day he rose again and ascended into Heaven.

[naomi24]

LG, for the sake of this exercise in rationality, we have to assume here that he did exist and simply put the evidence before us under the magnifying glass.

Lots of love.

Miss Marple. :o)

[FredPuli43]

Seems plausible, Naomi, but, by any account, he was stabbed in the side when he was still living. However, death in crucifixion was from slow asphyxia so it is possible that he could have been down alive.

Unfortunately, as in so much, God didn't see fit to ensure there was a contemporary record preserved . A strange oversight for an all- powerful deity, more like the human failings shown by Roman gods.

[FredPuli43]

^^ "taken down alive" ^^

[beso]

Aged six, my granddaughter who attends a Catholic school asked me "Once you are dead you can't come back can you?"

I confirmed this and she said "I thought so."

If a six year old can see through the bullsh1t, why do adults continue to be deluded?

[mickrog]

i think he hung around a bit

[coccinelle]

No, I don't think he survived the crucifixion; the resurrection and ascension brings the story of Jesus' life to a close. The disciples hid a while but continued Jesus' teachings to the Jews only. The person behind Christianity was Paul who never met Jesus and had more faith than Jesus' disciples who knew him well, Paul's faith led to Catholicism.

[beso]

There is no contemporary evidence that Jesus ever existed.

The claims made about his life are ridiculous so on the balance of probability he was nothing more than a fictional character in a book.

[cupid04]

I'm with seekerz!

[coccinelle]

beso if that's true then this 'story' has been going on for two thousand years and has employed a lot of people and killed even more...

[FredPuli43]

No , beso, there is no contemporary evidence. Let's assume the character is entirely fictional. If so, the first relayer of this story, Mark, was writing of a fictional character who, he tells us, died. The death related is only about 40 years from Mark's telling of it. It is as though a novelist told of someone dying in 1970 and everyone who heard or read this fiction in 2013 believed the fictional person to be real, to have been living in the 1960s, and not just living but having a following, with himself so worrying to the government and the Church that he was put to death in 1970. How likely is that?

Historical figures have often been associated with miraculous events and credited with miraculous powers. Even living beings have been so credited; the curing of scrofula, "the king's evil" is one example, the belief in witches another. Put in the context of the times, that a person as dangerous to the established order and orthodoxy of a religion, as Martin Luther was in his time, and who conceivably might, ultimately, prove a focus for Jewish nationalism and rebellion and hence threaten the peace and government of the province, should emerge and end up being put to death is not surprising And that stories of his miraculous deeds and resurrection should emerge is no surprise either.

[naomi24]

Good answer Fred. It does seem odd that no one bothered to keep a record at the time of all these miraculous happenings.

[mikey4444]

I have recently read in a serious book about Roman history that the relatives of people that were crucified used to hang about until the Roman soldiers had gone, and then try to tug the legs of the person on the cross, in order for them to have quicker death than they would otherwise have had.

Pretty ghastly don't you think ?

Not sure if Jesus could have walked out of the tomb, even if he didn't die up on the cross, what with his broken legs and all.

Its a miracle he survived at all !

[coccinelle]

mikey; Jesus didn't get his legs broken as he was already dead. The Romans broke the other people's legs as they couldn't stay there on the sabbath which started at 6pm. Jesus had his side slashed instead.

[naomi24]

Perhaps Jesus' legs weren't broken for the same reason he 'died' and was taken down from the cross so swiftly - because his rich friends bribed his 'executioners'. Dead men don't walk so unless you believe in magic, there are only two possible solutions to this mystery. Either it never happened at all - or Jesus survived.

[Answerprancer]

..that's assuming there *was* a Jesus and a crucifixion.
Apparently Easter has its origins with "Ishtar" and is a fertility rite.

[RATTER15]

They stuck him with a whopping great sword, unless they went to the trouble of sterilising it first, I think, let alone the wound itself he would have surely died from an infection within a few day.

[RATTER15]

Yes Answerprancer, Easter was being celebrated long before Jesus ever lived or died! It is just another date hijacked by Christians!!