I’d like some Christian to explain, please, why ‘faith’ is regarded as a virtue.
Faith is belief without evidence, more brutally described as blind credulity. Why is that good? Jesus is supposed to have said to Thomas (John 20:29) “…blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed”.
This seems to me to open the gates to making all beliefs respectable. Not only can I believe in astrology, magic crystals, leylines, unicorns and the like but I must be praised for such beliefs in the face of no evidence. Since the pass mark is zero I graduate with flying colours every time. Blessed am I, a place in heaven secured.
Is this why some people - despite the absence of any evidence - believe that their football clubs will one day top the Premiership or win the Champions League
The word 'Faith' has more than one meaning . The three virtues are not 'blind' Faith, Hope and Charity. Faith can mean belief, trust and surety,much more virtuous than the antonyms, disbelief, misgiving and suspicion. My personal interpretation would be that Faith as a Virtue is to give someone or something the benefit of the doubt, not to misjudge or second guess.
Zeuhl yes exactly what I meant. You are telling God that although you you have no evidence of His presence and that you will believe in Him and follow his teachings, so , in effect, giving him the benefit of the doubt.
The balance between their soul and their intellect is askew. Even though the cold rationality of reason sees to prevail the soul leads them to do good works. A rose by any other name...
No. It doesn't take religion to do good. But, when they are doing good, the soul of the unbeliever is trying to guide them onto a path that their haughty intellect is reluctant to follow.
Does your partner have faith in you? trust you to suceed?
Do you think that is a virtue in that context?
Thing is my wife exists - having faith in someone who exists and has been worthy ofthat faith before is clearly a virtue
Having faith in something that does not exist - like Astrology or kissing dice before they are thrown is in no way a virtue - in fact it's crazy.
So the assumptions you come to that question with are clearly rather relevant. To the believer their God is as real as my wife is to me and having faith in God is in no way as crazy as ley lines.
To the athiest it's every bit as daft
You have to get behind the eyes of the opposition in this sort of question and try to see the world as they do.
//It doesn't take religion to do good. But, when they are doing good, the soul of the unbeliever is trying to guide them onto a path that their haughty intellect is reluctant to follow. //
Why must faith be seen as a religious thing? After all, it's not like it has the monopoly on it. I have faith in my abilities, but I put that down to what I know I can and cannot do, religion plays no part whatsoever in this.
You're not likely to get an answer from the usual suspects, Chakka. But C.S. Lewis had a bash in one of his books, and, more enertainingly, so did Chesterton in (I think) the marvellous book Heretics. I'll see if I can hunt them down.