Ghosts

[naomi24]

This emanates from another thread where two people who have been raised as Christians and have and do argue here in favour of religion dismissed the notion that people see ghosts. The question is if you believe that human beings possess a spirit, or a soul, that survives corporal death, why do you doubt that ‘ghosts’ exist?

[lcg]

good question naomi.....

[Old_Geezer]

Surely they doubt because their faith assures them that he soul goes elsewher and doesn't 'hang around' here ? And even if they did 'hang around' here they could doubt the living should be able to see them.

[chakka35]

Once again, naomi, your indulgence leads you to seek logic from theists, an intellectual tool which is missing from their box.

[naomi24]

Ha ha! Sorry Chakka. MTH. ;o)

[sandyRoe]

God is good. He wouldn't subject a revenant to the ordeal of revisiting his old haunts to see life going on without him.

[LazyGun]

@Sandy "God is good. He wouldn't subject a revenant to the ordeal of revisiting his old haunts to see life going on without him."

And you base this assertion that "god is good" on- what, exactly?

[Octavius]

As OG really, nothing more to add.

[sandyRoe]

I partially base in on the fact we don't see many ghosts.

[LazyGun]

@ Sandy - I was asking about your assertion that "God is Good" -and we are to take as evidence for this that we do not see many ghosts about? Really?

Does not seem either very convincing or very relevant evidence either, to be honest..

[naomi24]

OG/Octavius, I can’t see why they would doubt the living can see them. The biblical authors wrote about people seeing ghosts. Jesus saw a ghost - and held a conversation with him. And then there’s purgatory – the half-way house. No idea where it is, but it's not heaven.

[jim360]

"I partially base in on the fact we don't see many ghosts."

Odin promised to remove ice giants from this world. Do you see any ice giants now? Worship Odin!!!!!

[Octavius]

jim, that just goes to prove that Odin exists and is a man of his word!

[pixie373]

Sorry, irrelevant, Naomi. But what is MTH? Think I've seen you write it twice now.

[naomi24]

Pixie, Must Try Harder - something some teachers write when marking. ;o)

Were you formerly known as P.Dust here?

[pixie373]

Oh! Thank you. No, i have been asked if i am "old Pixie", but no. Sorry.

[naomi24]

Oh don't be sorry. You don't sound like the old one, but I just wondered. Thanks.

[Old_Geezer]

Well even Purgatory isn't Earth. And "they" say it is the exception that proves the rule. So, some believe they saw spirits ? Maybe they did; a special concession to see a messenger, rather than the usual post-death activity.

[naomi24]

OG, I haven't a clue where Purgatory is. Do you? And Jesus (allegedly) saw a spirit - and conversed with it. Will anyone who believes in him dispute that?

[mikey4444]

I most certainly do not believe that people possess a spirit or a soul. The notion that their "ghost" can come back to haunt us childish and risible in the extreme.

[mikey4444]

Purgatory was invented in medieval times, by the only educated people around at the time...ie those that had a self-interest in believing in such nonsense in the first place. Drivel, all of of it.