Can Anyone Explain

[chrisgel]

Why the police haven't been involved in this?:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23782159

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2399313/Islamic-TV-channel-fined-85-000-watchdog-broadcasting-hate-preachers-saying-acceptable-murder-disrespected-Mohammed.html

It would seem to be a clear enough case of "incitement" and I personally would regard it as hate speech.
Others have been arrested and jailed for similar utterances but it seems as if, in this case, the police aren't interested.

[Octavius]

Ofcom as a regulator has processes that work independently of any police investigations, maybe the police are looking into it and we just haven't heard.

[LazyGun]

Don't know Chris. You have to love the comment in its defence from Noor, the channel in question;

"In its defence, the channel had said rather than inciting viewers to commit murder, the presenter was asking them "to take responsibility to become involved where they see disrespect to the Prophet".

The Presenter himself (?), since fired by the channel, seemed in no doubt that such involvement should be murder;

"Nizami answered that "there is no disagreement about this. There is absolutely no doubt about it that the punishment for the person who shows disrespect for the Prophet is death."

[chrisgel]

The show was broadcast May 3rd last year so there has been plenty of time to investigate I would have thought.

[chrisgel]

LG - Yes and I would imagine that one couldn't show more disrespect than to "not believe"

[Octavius]

Well its taken this long for Ofcom to issue a fine, maybe it takes longer to secure a criminal conviction. Probably a resource lapse.

[FredPuli43]

Was the speaker within the jurisdiction?

[chrisgel]

Not sure what you mean Fred but the program was broadcast to the UK from Birmingham.

[ChillDoubt]

When it comes to blasphemy it is the right of Islam to be more morally and justifiably outraged than any society or other religion at any questioning of the teachings of Allah.
To incite murder is the highest honour and proves one's loyalty in one's faith.
It more often than not also means that those doing the inciting can do so with impunity minimal fear of prosecution.

[ChillDoubt]

Insert 'and' between impunity and minimal in that last sentence.

[Octavius]

Fred, the man referred to in the programme is London based.

[wildwood]

The typical utterance "our is the peaceful way, but..." says it all.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Has a person in a free society got the "right" to be be a vile and ignorant moron?
Yes.
Should we have laws stopping people expressing their vile, ignorant and moronic views? No.
Should the police be spending their time trying to silence vile and ignorant morons? No.
It's acceding to these freedoms that makes us better than that these enemies of civilisation, don't you agree?

[chrisgel]

Vetuste - Absolutely agree. Freedom of speech should be universally accepted but I view incitement in a different light.

[idiosyncrasy]

Chilldoubt: //When it comes to blasphemy it is the right of Islam to be more morally and justifiably outraged than any society or other religion at any questioning of the teachings of Allah.
To incite murder is the highest honour and proves one's loyalty in one's faith.//

Why? After all Allah is only a title, just as God is a title. So a moslem is absolved of murder should someone question the teachings.?