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Reasons For Lying?
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People lie for many reasons. Some think they are obligated to lie about their abilities in order to get ahead in this competitive world.
Others try to cover up errors or guilt with lies. Still others falsify reports to give the impression that they have done work they have not done.
Then there are those who lie to damage another’s reputation, to avoid embarrassment, to justify previous lies, or to defraud people of their money.( Rev. 21:8)
Others try to cover up errors or guilt with lies. Still others falsify reports to give the impression that they have done work they have not done.
Then there are those who lie to damage another’s reputation, to avoid embarrassment, to justify previous lies, or to defraud people of their money.( Rev. 21:8)
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When you see today governments employ the technique of lying to their own people as well as to other governments. One government official said, when asked about lying, that it is the inherent right of a government to lie to save itself.
God’s Word counsels differently: Speak truth each one of you with his neighbor, because we are members belonging to one another. (Eph. 4:25) Unity can come only if people speak truth with one another. Liars are deceivers. How could lying possibly produce unity that is built on Liars.
God’s Word counsels differently: Speak truth each one of you with his neighbor, because we are members belonging to one another. (Eph. 4:25) Unity can come only if people speak truth with one another. Liars are deceivers. How could lying possibly produce unity that is built on Liars.
Khandro
mibn; The reason I'm finding your posts incompreHensible is because you are trying too hard to form a connection between lying, and what you personally consider to be an erroneous belief by someone else.
11:05 Thu 05th Sep 2013
I do not seek belief nor ask to be believed. If anything I discourage it. What I attempt to acquire from those with whom the potential exists is an improved mutual understanding to the extent we can relate in terms of common experience and share this pursuit as a common goal, apart from which comprehension ceases to be an option and any truth we might have shared is suspended beyond our reach.
mibn; The reason I'm finding your posts incompreHensible is because you are trying too hard to form a connection between lying, and what you personally consider to be an erroneous belief by someone else.
11:05 Thu 05th Sep 2013
I do not seek belief nor ask to be believed. If anything I discourage it. What I attempt to acquire from those with whom the potential exists is an improved mutual understanding to the extent we can relate in terms of common experience and share this pursuit as a common goal, apart from which comprehension ceases to be an option and any truth we might have shared is suspended beyond our reach.
Goodlife, I'm not asking you how pagans (or anyone else) celebrates Easter. I'm asking you what, according to the bible, happened at Easter. To make it simpler, you say you believe the bible, so which version of the accounts of Easter do you believe - and which do you consider to be lies? They contradictor one another so it follows that they can't all be right.
goodlife Three of the gospels say there were no women present at the crucifixion. There were only some in the distance but one gospel says Mary
mother of Jesus and three others were at the foot of the cross. What is more it says Jesus spoke with his mother. So who is lying ?
P.S When are you going to say how you would console that distraught 5yr
old child. Can't you find the answer in the bible ?
mother of Jesus and three others were at the foot of the cross. What is more it says Jesus spoke with his mother. So who is lying ?
P.S When are you going to say how you would console that distraught 5yr
old child. Can't you find the answer in the bible ?
Khandro
mibn; //I do not seek belief nor ask to be believed.// I didn't say you did, I said you are trying to associate the act of lying to the beliefs of others, merely on the grounds that you do not share that belief. Even if a belief is not objectively true, believing it is doesn't constitute lying.
17:06 Thu 05th Sep 2013
Nor have I said that believing in the arbitrary constitutes lying, even if the assertion that one accepts as truth was in fact a deliberate lie. Repeating a lie does not necessarily make one a liar any more than believing a lie makes it true. To lie is to deliberately assert as fact that which one knows for a fact to be untrue.
The question is when, if ever, is lying justified and my previous post was an attempt to present such a circumstance, that being when a lie becomes necessary to defend oneself from the consequences of another's belief in the arbitrary, for example, when confronted with someone who believes in their 'god given' right or obligation to kill you.
I'm not sure there's much point really in trying to make the inherent incomprehensibility of religion comprehensible, but what the hey, for you this once, I gave it a shot. When one abandons objectivity and reason as their sole means of ascertaining and establishing the validity of their own beliefs for the sake of heaven knows what imagined benefit they hope to derive from it, it is they who have abdicated their right to demand from others the truth they have themselves abandoned.
mibn; //I do not seek belief nor ask to be believed.// I didn't say you did, I said you are trying to associate the act of lying to the beliefs of others, merely on the grounds that you do not share that belief. Even if a belief is not objectively true, believing it is doesn't constitute lying.
17:06 Thu 05th Sep 2013
Nor have I said that believing in the arbitrary constitutes lying, even if the assertion that one accepts as truth was in fact a deliberate lie. Repeating a lie does not necessarily make one a liar any more than believing a lie makes it true. To lie is to deliberately assert as fact that which one knows for a fact to be untrue.
The question is when, if ever, is lying justified and my previous post was an attempt to present such a circumstance, that being when a lie becomes necessary to defend oneself from the consequences of another's belief in the arbitrary, for example, when confronted with someone who believes in their 'god given' right or obligation to kill you.
I'm not sure there's much point really in trying to make the inherent incomprehensibility of religion comprehensible, but what the hey, for you this once, I gave it a shot. When one abandons objectivity and reason as their sole means of ascertaining and establishing the validity of their own beliefs for the sake of heaven knows what imagined benefit they hope to derive from it, it is they who have abdicated their right to demand from others the truth they have themselves abandoned.
If an adoring new Mum says "isn't my baby beautiful", what do you say? The baby looks like an ugly shrivelled old walnut but I don't want to say that to the Mum so I lie and say "yes, he/she is beautiful". I lied but to tell the truth would've been hurtful and very cruel. We all lie, whether the lies are little white ones or great big fat black ones. I don't like lying and I certainly don't like being lied to, but sometimes it HAS to be done, to spare feelings. xx
