Why So Many Viewpoints?

[goodlife]

Why there are such varying views as to what is a Christian is that many do not understand why God has permitted evil or wickedness and so they are taken in by the arguments of atheists. (1 Cor. 1: 27)

[VHG]

Yes those terrible atheists.

Just think how many people have been killed or tortured by those atheists.

The world would have been a much more peaceful and wonderful place if those violent atheists had not started so many wars and killed and tortured so many people.

Kill the atheists !

[jomifl]

And you goodlife have made it even more complicacted and difficult to understand for the simple minded by subscribing to yet another christian cult. Well done, got your ticket yet?

[davetuc]

Blah, blah, blah........yawn. How many threads on this subject? Atheists will blame religion for nearly all wars, when in reality they are usually about power, wealth or territory fought under a religious banner. Each to their own and gain from religion what you need on a personal level. End of.

[Davethedog]

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

How does this prove your argument? Best you get this straight then god has permited wickedness, its not Satan but god.

This is in line with god created man, gave him sin, then impregnated a "virgin" so that god could be born, so that he could be crucified, to clense us of the sin that he gave us in the first place.

Next week - Talking snakes and why you shouldn't belive in evolution

[naomi24]

Goodlife, you don't have to worry. Only the rational see sense in the atheists' argument.

[LazyGun]

Plenty of evidence throughout history that religion has been the prime mover of conflict, DaveTuc. Us atheists do not need to manufacture claims that religion can cause war - history proves it.

As for why there are so many viewpoints as to what a christian is - thats largely down to christians themselves, dividing themselves up between different flavours and sects - Catholic, Protestant. Orthodox. Non-Orthodox. Presbyterian. Wee Frees. All consider their own sect to be the one true christian faith.

JWs claim to be the only true christians, as I understand these things, whereas all atheists and many christians would regard JW's as a minor and misguided cult, obsessed with a literal observation of scripture and willing to reject science and empirical fact in favour of such fundamentalist interpretations.

[goodlife]

One time I assumed that anyone different from me was weird. Now, I like the fact that not everyone is the same, and I’m interested in others’ viewpoints.

[jake-the-peg]

Er No


27 But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28 God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, 29 so that no one may boast before him.


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+1%3A27-29


Before giving out about the varying views - perhaps you should explain why your Bible is at odds with that that proper Christians use

[Zacs-Master]

Gospel according to Palin 1979:
And there shall in that time be rumours of things going astray, and there will be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia work base, that has an attachment…at this time, a friend shall lose his friends’s hammer and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before around eight o’clock...

[vulcan42]

Why so many viewpoints?
Because every religion has the arrogance to believe they are right when in reality they cannot see that they are all wrong.

[dunnitall]

What I've never understood is, that if a god made everything good, who made everything bad? Can't be humans if god rules everything and humans are given to by a god...god MUST have created evil too. Btw, good answer Vulcan, I'll drink to that.

[Old_Geezer]

Arrogance can be found in many places.
It is progress to move on from assuming anyone different from oneself is weird, and knowledge to know that everyone is.

[naomi24]

Jake, //perhaps you should explain why your Bible is at odds with that that proper Christians use //

Idiosyncrasy went some way to explaining that on another thread earlier today. Some bits, it seems, are “spurious and not part of the actual inspired text.” I wonder how they know which bits are 'inspired' and which are not? Goodlife?

[chrisgel]

The bits between
"In the beginning"
and
"The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. AMEN."
are the spurious ones IMO.

[ludwig]

// many do not understand why God has permitted evil or wickedness and so they are taken in by the arguments of atheists //

Good.

[mikey4444]

goodlife is using AB for a pulpit, yet again.

[atalanta]

Atheists don't need to argue. They need to be convinced. That means you have to show them cast-iron evidence. And that does not mean waving a book around declaring it is scripture, and because it is scripture it must be true. Give us evidence which would convince a Martian who had never heard of religion. Give us proof which cannot be contradicted by reason or logic. Or common sense, for that matter.

[mikey4444]

Ah Common Sense !...Sadly lacking in any religion atalanta...their fatal flaw !

[goodlife]

What people think of us varies a great deal, depending on their motives and what they have heard about us. We are praised and honored by some, reviled and hated by others.

But as long as we are being guided by Bible principles, we have every reason to be happy and at peace.

You see statements may be at odds with certain scientific theories, but not with established scientific fact. The history of science shows that theories come and go; the facts remain.

[locusts]

jake-the-peg27 But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28 God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, 29 so that no one may boast before him. 


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+1%3A27-29 


Before giving out about the varying views - perhaps you should explain why your Bible is at odds with that that proper Christians use 


locusts I think your refrains is invalidate //I look up the bible scripture

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
27 but God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
International Version (NIV) 27 But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong

1599 Geneva Bible (GNV) 27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise, and God hath chosen the weak things of the world, to confound the mighty things,

Wycliffe Bible (WYC)27 But God chose those things that be fond of the world, to confound wise men; and God chose the feeble things of the world, to confound the strong things; [But God chose those things that be foolish of the world, that he confound wise men; and God chose the sick things,or frail, of the world, that he confound the strong things;]

and many moor

j.w bible new world translation
27 but God chose the foolish things of the world, that he might put the wise men to shame; and God chose the weak things of the world, that he might put the strong things to shame;
Worldwide English (New Testament) (WE)?????
27 But God chose things that look foolish to the people of the world. He has used those foolish things to put the wise people to shame. God chose the weak things to put to shame the strong people.
What are you trying to say that j.w lie and cheat and put fuels interpretation in there bible
let get are fax right first