Is Islam A Dangerous Ideology?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Thanks for agreeing to join my thread, Andy.

I'm going to present the most obvious argument for the dangers inherent in Islam first. But it's not my main argument. That would exist independent of any act of "terror". I'll state that argument in a future post.

The anecdotal evidence (we see it on the TV and read it in our newspapers every day) suggests yes, Islam is dangerous. Everybody recognises a link OF SOME KIND between Islam and atrocities committed world-wide almost daily. The first clue is the perpetrators' frequent cry of "Allahu Akbar!" - Allah is greater or Allah is greatest - as they kill cartoonists, behead Christians or whatever. But we have more than that - the perpetrators of the atrocities all CLAIM they are followers of Mohammed and use (possibly MISUSE) the holy texts of Islam to justify many of their actions. ISIS is the most egregious example. It's core mission is the re-establishment of the Muslim Caliphate through holy war. Now if, I stress IF, Islam's sacred texts DO justify the aims and methods of groups like ISIS, then no-one would deny that Islam IS, at least potentially, a threat.

So, for starters, I'd like Andy or whomever to say whether they think groups like ISIS or the Charlie Hebdo murderers have a TOTALLY distorted view of Islam, or maybe have a more "nuanced" view about the relationship between the radicals and their claimed religion.

[keyplus90]

Hypognosis.

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This is how much sense your post made.

[beso]

khandro //As to you saying Jesus "endorsed" the old testament, -implying full acceptance of everything therein- he didn't, he referred to certain aspects and said he would "fulfill" it; Mathew 5:17-20.//

Right there in the same passage you choose to ignore:
"Until Heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the law, until all is accomplished" (Matthew 5:18)

//So if it is an option and is also not a decree, why do you think it is fascist? //

Jesus commanded that the laws be obeyed at pain of death for non-compliance:

For God said, 'Honor your father and mother' and 'Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.' (Matthew 15:4)

Moreover, it is perfectly clear that anyone who does not comply will be destroyed in Armageddon.

Also you seem to have forgotten that Jesus is the embodiment of God Himself. Hence there can be no separation between the teaching of Jesus and the teachings of the Old Testament.

Fascism through and through.

[Hypognosis]

@keyplus

You can save a lot of typing (and space on the page) by just putting
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(as in: over my head)

Some people just put "whoosh!"

[Hypognosis]

@keyplus

Do you count Somalia as a US-led invasion?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_(1993)#Background

24 dead 57 wounded Pakistani UN peacekeepers, who Aidid mistakenly believed were going to take down his radio station.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_837

[Khandro]

beso; You continually miss the important fact that, though 'fascism' might be levelled at the religion of Islam, in that there is no escape for 'apostates', who can be and are, beheaded or stoned, Christianity, and all other religions, are entirely optional.

[beso]

Khandro: The Hebrews completely massacred more than thirty tribes in the name of their god because the people wouldn't comply with their ideology.

Ultimately the Abrahamic god (of each flavour) intends to massacre everyone who doesn't comply with the rules of these cults.

It is you who continually misses the point.

[Svejk]

Aye, them Presbytarians stop at nothing.

[Hypognosis]

I'm not sure why this thread went quiet, all of a sudden but more on the theme of religion going to any lengths to further itself here:-

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Society-and-Culture/Religion-and-Spirituality/Question1481866.html#answer-10292576

[Khandro]

beso;//The Hebrews completely massacred more than thirty tribes..//

and then //the Abrahamic god (of each flavour) intends to massacre everyone...//

So who is doing the massacring, men or God? You sound a little obsessed with massacre.

[Answerprancer]

"Really. You put a list of Catholic terrorist attacks up.
And I'll put the Muslim one up"
How about the systematic slaughter of around nine million innocent women for a start?