Islam

[thejudderman]

Why does the government or any one else in authority, even answerbank admin suppress anyone's opinion that shows Islam for what it is??

[ummmm]

I know members can be reinstated. I don't think anyone bothers with removed posts though.

[-Talbot-]

I've met every type of Muslim imaginable whilst I have been here, ummmm.

[ummmm]

That's why I pay heed to you.

[kvalidir]

Hi Talbot yes there was on another thread mention of deliberately sinking their boats, which tbh is the remark that really inflamed me and quite a few other people too. We've lost a couple of members over that, people have left because they find the site distasteful, and I don't think people who say things like that quite see how bloody offensive saying that actually is, possibly because they are just grandstanding and don't mean it, or possibly because they aren't and do :/

[Jackdaw33]

Dislike or fear of Islam is by no means confined to the pages of AB.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Anne: "...today's anti Islam discussion"
Spath: "it would be nice if i could come onto AB and not see Islam posted".

The people who criticise Islam do so for exactly the same reasons[i as people criticise totalitarian ideologies like Stalinism, Fascism etc.

So guys, [i]if] I'm right - and I may not be - in describing Islam as a totalitarian ideology, then I'm right to criticise, aren't I?

[tamborine]

Kval, as I read the 'sinking boats' it was for empty vehicles so they couldnt be re-used to ferry more people.

[Mothman]

Back on topic?

No one (the government, AB etc) suppresses anyone's opinion - they draw a line on what is considered 'hate-speech'. You can hold whatever opinion you want, but expressing such opinions in public may generate genuine concern for some members of the community. You can agree or disagree that these rather arbitary lines are draw correctly and if you disagree there are ways of getting these laws changed (but posting on an insignificant forum in an insignificant corner of the internet is not one of them).

This type of Daily Mail-esque post falls into the same bracket as all the 'elf and safety gone mad' nonsense which gets some peoples backs up, it's simply a question of recognising the intent and wording a response that doesn't fall foul of the rules. If someone finds themself unable to do that, perhaps they should refrain from expressing opinions until they have improved their vocabulary and thought processes to a degree where they can voice their opinions in a civilised manner.

This is the type of ruling which will be railed against by those in the majority but has been shown time and time again to be necessary to protect those in the minority. Personally, I think the line is necessary, but is currently in the wrong place - however, outside of a few illiterate, ill thought out and incendiary posts I haven't seen anything reasonable censored.

[thejudderman]

So...... am I not allowed to say that Islam is an evil savage ideology with intentions of world domination?
Instead do I have to say that Islam is the religion of peace??

[jim360]

You're allowed to say whatever you like, as long as it doesn't involve incitement to racial hatred or incitement to some crime. But AB doesn't have to provide a platform for you to say it.

[thejudderman]

Spath..... That is what my original post said.... actually I said "I think" rather than "in my opinion"...... which is the same thing I'm sure you'll agree!

[Theland]

A religion is not a race

[kvalidir]

No it's not, but it's still behaviour which is inciting violence because someone belongs to a particular group.

For instance would you like me to say 'All Christians are paedophiles' because a few priests happen to be, it's clearly untrue. It's the generalisations that are the issue, not what your own personal opinion is, but the fact that something is stated as fact about a group of people which is untrue.