Proof Of God?

[Theland]

With so many scientists believeing in God, and proofs such as intelligent design established, and the valid criticisms of evolution not being successfully challenged, would you now at least consider the possibility of a universe created by a conscious mind, God?

So many great highly intelligent people never questioned the existence of God, so does that not give you pause for thought?

J.C. Ryle, Tozer, Spurgeon, Hudson Taylor, Isaac Newton, to name just a tiny few?
If you embrace atheism, ask yourself, do you know more than these people?
And what do you know?

[nailit]

Theland, and what exactly do you know of the works of St Augustine (the Confessions) or John Calvin (institutes of the Christian Religion)?
Ive probably read more of this stuff before you were even born.

[Peter Pedant]

// proofs such as intelligent design established, and the valid criticisms of evolution not being successfully challenged,//

O god forgive him -
he is at it again
false premisses - false conclusions

[Peter Pedant]

Hi Naily
John Calvin always knew he was the most intelligent man in the room and used to wipe the floor with anyone else present

theland is not in that position - well OK the floor cloth

[nailit]

//John Calvin always knew he was the most intelligent man in the room and used to wipe the floor with anyone else present//
Sometimes even putting them to death, good protestant that he was, not like those nasty catholics eh?

[Peter Pedant]

calvin as baby killer
I hadnt realised
http://www.reenactingtheway.com/blog/john-calvin-had-people-killed-and-bad-bible-interpretation-justified-it

I thought he was just a spaced out reformer who said things such as
' like you know - that's what I think today...'
I mean the scottish reformation was mainly calvinist
and Mary Queen of Scots wasnt exactly a wise monarch.....

[Old_Geezer]

Why would there be a reason (i.e. predesigned intent) for the universe ? Why wouldn't it just be ?

Sime highly intelligent people might have better things to do than try to question the prevailing religious belief.

[nailit]

Most (if not all) of the protestant reformers were murderous nutjobs.

[Peter Pedant]

I thought all proddies were latitudinarians - went to a protestant uni.

No old Geezer - intelligent design has not been established - unlike evolution. As Dawkins said - you can see it under a microscope (bacteria and all that ) - it is just a question ( even Theland agree ) of how important it is.

[spathiphyllum]

“ would you now at least consider the possibility of a universe created by a conscious mind, God? “

Yes. Many beleive in a simulation theory. I don’t beleive it in the christian sense thoigh, i think that’s simply a story homage to such potential theory’s

[spathiphyllum]

“ does that not give you pause for thought?“

No a lot of smart people are insain, also people can live in what ever world they wish without questioning it

I do question god sometimes, quite rarely... but if i devoted to Christianity then i’d question my beleifs every single day! So whats the point

[naomi24]

//proofs such as intelligent design established//

Contributors to this thread should have stopped at that^ .... and awaited the proofs.

The ball's in your court, Theland.

[spathiphyllum]

“ And what do you know?“

A wise man would admit to not knowing a lot

[vetuste_ennemi]

Ah, Calvin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

"O Scotland, how thee a double darkness mocks. Thy name is Scotia and thy teacher Knox."

"Calvin" didn't rhyme, you see.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Sorry, I was trying to paste a Servetus link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Servetus

[Theland]

Nailit, it's the same old, "guess what I know and you don't know!" Again.
So yeah! Help yourself to a lollipop.
But there you go. You and another immediately get aggressive.
I was after a conversation, and ended up with the beginnings of a cross examination.
Do you folk ever really examine yourselves?

[Theland]

Nailit, do you really think your local vicar wants to emulate Calvin, and execute the so called "apostates? "
Oh come on pal, give us a break. You are beginning to sound ridiculous.

[douglas9401]

Regularly, in the shower.

[Theland]

Naomi, do you give chapter and verse for every single statement you ever make?
Is this just you on your high horse again? I think so.
Next time you assert anything, that reasonable people would accept because of your integrity, how do you feel about demands to supply numerous references?
Anyway, if you wish to shut me down and get me out of AB, you have almost succeeded. Congrats.

[-Talbot-]

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[Theland]

Douglas - Yes. You are like the kid at the back of the class, sniggering when teacher has his back to the class.
Do you think you are funny?
I think so, in the head!
Carry on though. You are your own number one fan.