The First Cause.

[Theland]

Do we agree that the universe had an uncaused first cause?

[pixie374]

Not necessarily.

[Theland]

Expand please?

[Baldric]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_argument

[pixie374]

Personally, I don't know. I have no proof either way. Do you? X

[Mamyalynne]

I honestly haven't a clue, am making the most of the time I have to enjoy the life I've been given.

[Theland]

My own common sense tells me there must have been a first uncaused cause, something eternal.

[pixie374]

That isn't "common sense" theland. It is a massive unproven presumption. Where have you got it from?

[Baldric]

I think he's been reading Wikipedia ;o)

[pixie374]

Yes. Theland is an easy conversion :-)

[pixie374]

Ah, thanks, baldric lol x
Theland, I am genuinely interested... you have put up two threads now and I have never been so baffled in my life.... looking forward to seeing the point though.

[Theland]

If I am wrong, the cause had a cause, had a cause, had a cause had a cause had a cause ad infinitem. Does that make sense?

[Theland]

Where from? The Bible.

[pixie374]

None of really makes sense, any more than an "uncaused first cause" does. How does that make sense?

[Zacs-Master]

FGS people, don’t get dragged into Theland’s quasi scientific garbage. There’s no such thing as an uncaused cause. There can’t be.

[pixie374]

Ah... I would really like to hear your own thoughts and views, theland as person. I have read the bible and didn't believe a word of it. If you can make sense of it, please do x

[woofgang]

Don't know; don't care.

[pixie374]

I don't think it is even quasi-scientific, zacs. No pretense that it makes sense, at least. I'm not interested in religion, I did Psychology, so I am interested in his thoughts.

[Zacs-Master]

Good luck with that, pixie. You might want a therapist on speed dial.

[Theland]

Zacs you don't believe in the law of cause and effect?

[pixie374]

I have one. Lol. Theland, how do you have an uncaused first cause?