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Who Is Ruling The Earth Satan Or God Or Man
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IS Satan a ruler of this system or this world - because it is in such a mess and he is using man to destroy himself -- because of HIS selfish desires.
The say Bible at John .14.30 it's giving me the information .???
The say Bible at John .14.30 it's giving me the information .???
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nailit 13:40 Fri 07th Aug 2020 //When in the garden of Eden, the Devil misled Adam and Eve//
What was Satan doing in a 'paradise on Earth'?
nailit 17:43 Fri 07th Aug 2020 / What was Satan doing in a 'paradise on Earth' goodlife?
Think. Use your brain. Why would God cast Satan onto a perfect paradise (Earth) instead of say Mars ?
//I thought you said you read the Bible but you didn't seem to get the sense of it ?? . IN the beginning Satan was a cherub and he was giving a very high position in the Garden of Eden as a caretaker His job is to take care about Adam and Eve .not to destroy them - and put them into temptation - But this angel decided to rebel again God sovereignty and you will know the rest
JOB 1. 8==JOB 2 -1-5 from these two chapters you can see how Satan was determined to destroy mankind with his lies and and selfish desires . John 8:44, Jesus said that the Devil “ HE did not stand fast in the truth,” implying that Satan had at one time been truthful and guiltless. { ASV } Ezekiel 28.13 -15 Thou wast in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, the topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was in thee; in the day that thou wast created they were prepared. 14 Thou wast the anointed cherub that covereth: and I set thee, so that thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.15 Thou was unrightness { iniquity }was found in thee.16 By the abundance of thy traffic they filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore have I cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God; and I have destroyed thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.17 {Thy heart was lifted up because of thy beauty; thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: }I have cast thee to the ground; I have laid thee before kings, that they may behold thee. Revelation 19-20.21
What was Satan doing in a 'paradise on Earth'?
nailit 17:43 Fri 07th Aug 2020 / What was Satan doing in a 'paradise on Earth' goodlife?
Think. Use your brain. Why would God cast Satan onto a perfect paradise (Earth) instead of say Mars ?
//I thought you said you read the Bible but you didn't seem to get the sense of it ?? . IN the beginning Satan was a cherub and he was giving a very high position in the Garden of Eden as a caretaker His job is to take care about Adam and Eve .not to destroy them - and put them into temptation - But this angel decided to rebel again God sovereignty and you will know the rest
JOB 1. 8==JOB 2 -1-5 from these two chapters you can see how Satan was determined to destroy mankind with his lies and and selfish desires . John 8:44, Jesus said that the Devil “ HE did not stand fast in the truth,” implying that Satan had at one time been truthful and guiltless. { ASV } Ezekiel 28.13 -15 Thou wast in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, the topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was in thee; in the day that thou wast created they were prepared. 14 Thou wast the anointed cherub that covereth: and I set thee, so that thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.15 Thou was unrightness { iniquity }was found in thee.16 By the abundance of thy traffic they filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore have I cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God; and I have destroyed thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.17 {Thy heart was lifted up because of thy beauty; thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: }I have cast thee to the ground; I have laid thee before kings, that they may behold thee. Revelation 19-20.21
My post to goodlife at 13:16 -
// It takes a galaxy-sized ego, a similar-sized sense of self-righteousness, an inability to listen to, or answer genuine questions, a conviction that you alone are right, and everyone else is wrong, an in-built sense of superiority, a pressing need to convince everyone that you are right and they are wrong, a seriously thin skin which makes you chippy and offensive when challenged, and a default position of addressing every other adult you meet as though they are an eight year old with a personality disorder. //
locusts response to nailit at 15:33 -
// What was Satan doing in a 'paradise on Earth'?
nailit 17:43 Fri 07th Aug 2020 / What was Satan doing in a 'paradise on Earth' goodlife?
Think. Use your brain. //
I'm not sure that biblical philosophies come true, but the self-fulfilling ones on here are absolutely guaranteed!!
// It takes a galaxy-sized ego, a similar-sized sense of self-righteousness, an inability to listen to, or answer genuine questions, a conviction that you alone are right, and everyone else is wrong, an in-built sense of superiority, a pressing need to convince everyone that you are right and they are wrong, a seriously thin skin which makes you chippy and offensive when challenged, and a default position of addressing every other adult you meet as though they are an eight year old with a personality disorder. //
locusts response to nailit at 15:33 -
// What was Satan doing in a 'paradise on Earth'?
nailit 17:43 Fri 07th Aug 2020 / What was Satan doing in a 'paradise on Earth' goodlife?
Think. Use your brain. //
I'm not sure that biblical philosophies come true, but the self-fulfilling ones on here are absolutely guaranteed!!
Mally - // But Locust...there is no god. There never has been....this is how people have been controlled for centuries ..the promise of heaven and the threat of hell. The church and its followers is continuing with those threats. //
May I refer you once again to my post to goodlife (or any of them, they all think and speak exactly the same … )
// It takes a galaxy-sized ego, a similar-sized sense of self-righteousness, an inability to listen to, or answer genuine questions, a conviction that you alone are right, and everyone else is wrong, an in-built sense of superiority, a pressing need to convince everyone that you are right and they are wrong, a seriously thin skin which makes you chippy and offensive when challenged, and a default position of addressing every other adult you meet as though they are an eight year old with a personality disorder. //
There is as much chance of you getting a sensible reply to your post as there is of plaiting fog.
May I refer you once again to my post to goodlife (or any of them, they all think and speak exactly the same … )
// It takes a galaxy-sized ego, a similar-sized sense of self-righteousness, an inability to listen to, or answer genuine questions, a conviction that you alone are right, and everyone else is wrong, an in-built sense of superiority, a pressing need to convince everyone that you are right and they are wrong, a seriously thin skin which makes you chippy and offensive when challenged, and a default position of addressing every other adult you meet as though they are an eight year old with a personality disorder. //
There is as much chance of you getting a sensible reply to your post as there is of plaiting fog.
goodlife - // In all the world Jehovah’s Witnesses are not being sanctimonious or self-righteous. Neither are they seeking persecution or martyrdom.
They love and enjoy life …
If you are an example of a JH 'enjoying life', it's no wonder you have to traipse round door to door looking for converts - who would willingly embrace what you pronounce about on here day after day?
A life of fear and denial couched in endless quotes from the bible bookended by patronising and evasion?
No thanks!
They love and enjoy life …
If you are an example of a JH 'enjoying life', it's no wonder you have to traipse round door to door looking for converts - who would willingly embrace what you pronounce about on here day after day?
A life of fear and denial couched in endless quotes from the bible bookended by patronising and evasion?
No thanks!
Mally - // Andy Hughes...yes I know but I sometimes find it hard to keep quiet....particularly on this topic. This sort of stuff if so forced on children, for example , that even in this day and age they grow up with fear.....appalling thing to inflict on young people. //
I understand how you feel.
Nailit, naomi and myself are regular sparrers with the regular fervents on here, and none of us get anywhere, because there is not even the beginnings of common ground to discuss, quite apart from the intractable arrogance and hostility that eventually overtakes the handwringing patronage from them.
We should all simply ignore them, but you're right, sometimes the urge to argue is simply too strong to resist.
I understand how you feel.
Nailit, naomi and myself are regular sparrers with the regular fervents on here, and none of us get anywhere, because there is not even the beginnings of common ground to discuss, quite apart from the intractable arrogance and hostility that eventually overtakes the handwringing patronage from them.
We should all simply ignore them, but you're right, sometimes the urge to argue is simply too strong to resist.
Naomi @ 09:09 - Again I am innocent of my accusers allegations.
I have only ever supported the gospel, not the bits added on by men.
A true understanding of the gospel is not scary or terrifying.
Where did that come from?
As for superiority, no, I don't consider myself superior at all.
That is just a foundless accusation with nothing to support it. Totally lazy.
Damaging people? Children? What rubbish. Save that comment for social media.
I have only ever supported the gospel, not the bits added on by men.
A true understanding of the gospel is not scary or terrifying.
Where did that come from?
As for superiority, no, I don't consider myself superior at all.
That is just a foundless accusation with nothing to support it. Totally lazy.
Damaging people? Children? What rubbish. Save that comment for social media.
locusts
//Satan was a cherub and he was giving a very high position in the Garden of Eden as a caretaker His job is to take care about Adam and Eve//
Now you're just making stuff up.
Theland
//Nailit - Your lack of understanding of scripture, considering you claim to have read the bible so often, is nothing short of impressive//
Says every fundamentalist when challenged.
Its laughable.
//Satan was a cherub and he was giving a very high position in the Garden of Eden as a caretaker His job is to take care about Adam and Eve//
Now you're just making stuff up.
Theland
//Nailit - Your lack of understanding of scripture, considering you claim to have read the bible so often, is nothing short of impressive//
Says every fundamentalist when challenged.
Its laughable.
Andy, Just to remind you, you are one of the folk on here that I totally respect.
But you do sometimes address me and others, not only with valid comments, but, in my opinion, with a totally superior attitude.
If I misread you I apologise, but that is my impression.
Man made religions are trying to bridge the gap between Man and God.
They introduce all kinds of doctrines to add to the scriptures to do so, thereby enslaving Man.
The biblical gospel alone is Gods way of bridging the gap. God does all the work, we do nothing except to believe and accept the free gift of forgiveness and a living relationship with Jesus Christ.
We are totally free.
That message is irksome to many, just look at Nailit thrashing around in anger, unable to believe or disbelieve.
Others pick holes for entertainment or self aggrandisement, as is obvious from their posts.
Locusts and Goodlife should realise this.
I disagree with much of their dogma, but I respect their right to present it without attracting a barrage of custard pies!
But you do sometimes address me and others, not only with valid comments, but, in my opinion, with a totally superior attitude.
If I misread you I apologise, but that is my impression.
Man made religions are trying to bridge the gap between Man and God.
They introduce all kinds of doctrines to add to the scriptures to do so, thereby enslaving Man.
The biblical gospel alone is Gods way of bridging the gap. God does all the work, we do nothing except to believe and accept the free gift of forgiveness and a living relationship with Jesus Christ.
We are totally free.
That message is irksome to many, just look at Nailit thrashing around in anger, unable to believe or disbelieve.
Others pick holes for entertainment or self aggrandisement, as is obvious from their posts.
Locusts and Goodlife should realise this.
I disagree with much of their dogma, but I respect their right to present it without attracting a barrage of custard pies!
//just look at Nailit thrashing around in anger, just look at Nailit thrashing around in anger, unable to believe or disbelieve.
EH?
1) I'm not 'thrashing around with anger'. How ridiculous. Asking a few questions of believers does not constitute anger. Frustration at times, yes, but no anger here.
2)//unable to believe or disbelieve//
Thought my stance was well known...
Why are YOU making stuff up as well?
EH?
1) I'm not 'thrashing around with anger'. How ridiculous. Asking a few questions of believers does not constitute anger. Frustration at times, yes, but no anger here.
2)//unable to believe or disbelieve//
Thought my stance was well known...
Why are YOU making stuff up as well?
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