Heaven

[fiveleaves]

Justify it?

[Mamyalynne]

DD, torn to shreds?

Not at all - where did your ability to diagnose mental illness in billions of people come from?

Quite impressive really.

[Deskdiary]

Simple really…

If I swore blind in the existence of leprachauns, even though there’s as much proof in their existence as there in the existence of god, I’d be carted off to the funny farm.

And yet even though there’s exactly the same amount of proof (I.e none - absolute zero) people believe in the nonsense.

Worse, we’re meant to accept it and respect it.

And I just can’t.

What is the difference in believing in god to believing in leprachauns?

God botherers will denounce the beliefs of the scientology lunatics, and rightly so, but why are the scientology mentalists wrong yet the christian mentalists right?

Neither stands up to even the merest of scrutiny.

[Peter Pedant]

chrissakes it ismentioned in the New Testament
( Dives and Lazarus) (*) - Lazarus wishes to go back down and tell people what it is like and ze holy farzer says
"I have sent my only begotten son and that really will have to do..."

(*) yeah yeah a thousand AB jokesters will queue to quip:
"Hoo-vays and what-larus!"

[Mamyalynne]

If you think that someone could be sectioned for believing in leprechauns then you should ask for your money back, whatever course you paid for to gain your qualifications.

I wouldn't want respect from anyone on AB having read the venom spouted today by some.

[Theland]

Deskdiary, I presume of course that you have given Christianity, ''the merest of scrutiny.''

[DTCwordfan]

God asked St Peter why he let the last three men into heaven....
God says: "Why did you let the priest who stole from the church in?"

Saint Peter says: "The priest from Stoke-on-Trent showed letters from the congregation documenting how he spent his last 30 years not only paying back triple what he took, but serving the church for no compensation. He has repented."

Then God asked: "Ok, but why let in the murderer?

Saint Peter said: "The man showed proof that the person killed was secretly a child molester who was abusing his three underage daughters, and then got away with it when he forced them to lie in court about it. He was justified"

God says: "OK, but what about the guy you just let in who questioned whether he believed in me, some Theland bloke? I saw him come up to you and you let him in after he just showed you his hand. What could he possibly have shown you to keep from being sent to Satan? "

Saint Peter says: "There's nothing I could do. When I saw his wedding ring, I realized something. He had already spent an eternity in hell."

[Mamyalynne]

DD said
//If I swore blind in the existence of leprechauns, even though there’s as much proof in their existence as there in the existence of god, I’d be carted off to the funny farm.//

No, you wouldn't.

[JimF]

"No, you wouldn't."

You forgot to add "End of."

;-)

[Mamyalynne]

Now, you know me better than that Jim.

[Mamyalynne]

I commented on your statement DD.

[benhilton]

Have a look at 2 Peter 3: 16 and 17 .

[naomi24]

benhilton, I wonder who is doing the misleading?

[roadman]

You dont need to justify eternal reward for those who belong in heaven it justifies itself no justification is needed

[mibn2cweus]

Where no justification is needed, no justification is possible.

[nailit]

//You dont need to justify eternal reward for those who belong in heaven it justifies itself no justification is needed //

You're not wrong....Biblicaly!
Romans Ch.9
//16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.
19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”[h] 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?//

Its clear as day that God makes us who we are...and then assigns us to eternal torment for being who we are!!!
This ''God'' is a psycopath!

Other verses say that God sends decietful/Lying spirits to decieve people. It says that the heart is decietful so that we ourselves cannot even know if we are 'saved' or not, that even the 'elect'
can be decieved, that the parables of jesus were a way of decieving the unelect and that Satan can appear as an angel of light to decieve people. ...on top of overriding our 'freewill' by hardening our hearts?

So how the hell can someone determine if they are right Given that God loads the dice in such a way?

[nailit]

Verses as usual on request....

[Bazile]

//Justify it?//

Erm - it's a good place to go ?

Is that a good enough justification ?