For Naomi - And Anyone Interested

[andy-hughes]

Should we consider Muslims to be 'people' and treated like everyone else, or are they an insidious force bent on world domination, and as such, are denied such inclusion?

[dannyk13]

The ones that I know deserve to be treated the same as everybody else.

[goodgoalie]

It's Islam that is the 'insidious force'

[ToraToraTora]

Well a world caliphate is their aim. Though of course that's a question of degree to which they ascribe individually. Like the Christian missionaries who wanted to convert, they have their conversion wing.

[andy-hughes]

goodgoalie - // It's Islam that is the 'insidious force' //

Any faith is the sum of its people - it does not exist as some sort of nebulous entity.

[naomi24]

Yes, of course we should consider Muslims to be people and treated like everyone else - except those who want to blow us up. Goodgoalie has it in one. You're confusing people with philosophy.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // Yes, of course we should consider Muslims to be people and treated like everyone else - except those who want to blow us up. Goodgoalie has it in one. You're confusing people with philosophy. //

And you are shifting your oft-proclaimed position.

You constantly refer to Islam as a 'force' that is keen to take over the world, and scoff at the insistence from myself and others that the vast majority of Muslims are peace-loving people who have no wish to take over anything.

Now, because you have been caught out elsewhere, you are trying to convince me that you think Muslims should be 'treated as people'.

Do I have to copy and paste any of the endless posts you have made that directly contradicted that viewpoint?

Or can you simply admit that you are changing your position to blow with the wind.

[Khandro]

One of my favourite golf chums is a Muslim, lovely guy.

[douglas9401]

"Do I have to copy and paste any of the endless posts you have made that directly contradicted that viewpoint?"

Well, since you've gone to all the bother of baiting the trap it seems only fair that you do, unless you expect others to do the work for you.

[andy-hughes]

douglas - // "Do I have to copy and paste any of the endless posts you have made that directly contradicted that viewpoint?"

Well, since you've gone to all the bother of baiting the trap it seems only fair that you do, unless you expect others to do the work for you. //

The question was to naomi, so I'm sure you'll understand if I wait for her response - predictable though it is.

[naomi24]

AH, Don't be silly. You tried hard to provoke an argument elsewhere - as you're doing here - but it didn't work and there was no discussion.

Copy and paste whatever you like.

[douglas9401]

There you go now.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // AH, Don't be silly. You tried hard to provoke an argument elsewhere - as you're doing here - but it didn't work and there was no discussion.

Copy and paste whatever you like. //

Patronising me is more of your smoke-blowing, so let's ignore it shall we.

My post at 10.57 awaits your consideration.

[naomi24]

I've considered it. It's tripe.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // I've considered it. It's tripe.//

You offered me a chance to start a thread and you would be happy to debate with me there.

That's here - is this your idea of debate?

[naomi24]

What do you want to debate? I've given my answer to your OP.

[andy-hughes]

douglas - My post - // The question was to naomi, so I'm sure you'll understand if I wait for her response - predictable though it is. //

Naomi;s response - // I've considered it. It's tripe. //

Like I said predictable.

[naomi24]

No, AH ... my response to your question was //Copy and paste whatever you like. //

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - // What do you want to debate? I've given my answer to your OP. //

I want to debate your decades-long insistence that Islam is an evil force intent on taking over the world, following the Koran, etc ad nauseum, and your stance of the last couple of days, that Muslims should be treated as people like everyone else.

Why don;t we start with you advising which of those positions is real, and which is false, because you can't have it both ways.

[royfromaus]

You're the king of C&P, andy...hurry up with the evidence, we're waiting with popcorn and coke.

[naomi24]

My answer at 10:49 Tue covers that.