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Just listening to the Jeremy Vine show on Radio 2 and there was a piece on holocaust deniers, are there really still people around that believe that the holocaust didn't happen, are there any on AB that think this way?
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a lot of them are/were in the Labour party:
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Whatever major event has happened in history, from the Holocaust to the death of Elvis, you will always find a large group - worryingly large in some cases - of people who will either try and put a spin on history, or simply flat-out deny that the event took place.
I think it comes down to simple attention-seeking - if you go against the perceived wisdom about something, you are in a minority, and that gives you a sense of 'otherness' and 'specialness'.
That feeling makes you feel like part of a select, and superior, small group who actually 'know' what's going on, and are not fooled by the machinations of a secret cabal keeping us enslaved in ignorance.
It's complete bat-droppings of course, but it's part of the price we pay for living in a world where we prize and protect free speech.
I think it comes down to simple attention-seeking - if you go against the perceived wisdom about something, you are in a minority, and that gives you a sense of 'otherness' and 'specialness'.
That feeling makes you feel like part of a select, and superior, small group who actually 'know' what's going on, and are not fooled by the machinations of a secret cabal keeping us enslaved in ignorance.
It's complete bat-droppings of course, but it's part of the price we pay for living in a world where we prize and protect free speech.
yeah David Irving for one
"In his works, he argued that Adolf Hitler did not know of the extermination of Jews, or, if he did, he opposed it."
before he went off the rails big time 1968 he wrote quite a credible book on the German Nuclear effort during the war
(never achieved controlled nuclear fission which is a requisite before creating an er uncontrolled nuclear reaction ( bomb). screwed by a nobel laureate who got the permittivity of graphite badly wrong. neutrons never slow enough for nuclear capture)
"In his works, he argued that Adolf Hitler did not know of the extermination of Jews, or, if he did, he opposed it."
before he went off the rails big time 1968 he wrote quite a credible book on the German Nuclear effort during the war
(never achieved controlled nuclear fission which is a requisite before creating an er uncontrolled nuclear reaction ( bomb). screwed by a nobel laureate who got the permittivity of graphite badly wrong. neutrons never slow enough for nuclear capture)
You will always have 'deniers' on any issue. In respect of the holocaust I have a relative (deceased now) who was one of the liberators of Auschwitz and told me of the horrors he saw and the testaments of some survivors. I have been to the camp myself and seen the remaining evidence including the sight of an elderly Jewish man weeping at the base of the equipment they used to hang and despatch one of the camp supremos. He witnessed that and just collapsed in a heap as he touched the wooden posts.
Myth? I don't think so.
Myth? I don't think so.
Paul - // In respect of the holocaust I have a relative (deceased now) who was one of the liberators of Auschwitz and told me of the horrors he saw and the testaments of some survivors. //
Me too - my wife's uncle was one of the first in Belsen, and hardly spoke about it at all until not long before his death at 98.
He said they had no idea what to do, they all had their rations of biscuits in their pockets, and they threw them over the wire to the people on the other side, and they were horrified at how the people fought like animals over the crumbs.
I simply can't get my head around what an experience like that would do to a man who was barely in his twenties, and never been away from home before.
And even less can I comprehend anyone, with the vast amount of evidence available, that would either try and slew the facts to be other than they clearly are, or worse, simply deny that this portion of history happened.
Me too - my wife's uncle was one of the first in Belsen, and hardly spoke about it at all until not long before his death at 98.
He said they had no idea what to do, they all had their rations of biscuits in their pockets, and they threw them over the wire to the people on the other side, and they were horrified at how the people fought like animals over the crumbs.
I simply can't get my head around what an experience like that would do to a man who was barely in his twenties, and never been away from home before.
And even less can I comprehend anyone, with the vast amount of evidence available, that would either try and slew the facts to be other than they clearly are, or worse, simply deny that this portion of history happened.
