Why Has God Permitted So Much Time Of Man's Suffering?

[goodlife]

The evidence should be clear to all. Man’s record of governing himself independent of God has been a dismal failure
As the Bible says.​—Eccl. 8:9. “Man has dominated man to his injury,”

[naomi24]

I'm sure you've said this before, goodlife. Why are you repeating yourself?

[ToraToraTora]

Alleluia!

[Old_Geezer]

If an omnipotent god allowed a creation to govern themselves knowing it would not work out then that god is responsible for all that occurred. Unless you are implying that god didn't realise and therefore sim0ly failed. The evidence is clear, apparently.

Meanwhile your post doesn't address the question in your title. Do you genuinely not know and asking for help ?

[Peter Pedant]

god permitted so much time of man's suffering

Eccl. 8:9. “Man has dominated man to his injury,” - has no mention of time in it. You dont mind me pointing this out, do you?

[Peter Pedant]

misquote - incomplete and out of context

Ecclesiastes 8:9, KJV: All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man ruleth over another to his own hurt.

καὶ σύμπαν τοῦτο εἶδον, καὶ ἔδωκα τὴν καρδίαν μου εἰς πᾶν τὸ ποίημα ὃ πεποίηται ὑπὸ τὸν ἥλιον, τὰ ὅσα ἐξουσιάσατο ὁ ἄνθρωπος ἐν ἀνθρώπῳ τοῦ κακῶσαι αὐτόν·

time ( xpovos) has crept into the translation.

[archibaldy]

// Man’s record of governing himself independent of God has been a dismal failure //

The Liz Truss episode was a bit of a debacle, granted.

[Zacs-Master]

When, exactly, were we governed by God, goodlife?

[PsalmEquipt]

As stated in I Corinthians 4:3, we live in a day when man's judgment dominates. A person can curse God and his fellow man while experiencing no apparent consequences. The truth is that the wheels of God's justice grind slowly, but they grind finely. Only with the future coming of the new Heaven and Earth will there be ultimate justice.

As it is written in the book of the words of Esaias the prophet, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be brought low; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways shall be made smooth; And all flesh shall see the salvation of God. Luke 3:4-6

Before the original creation, God knew every outcome of every option available to Him, yet in His grace and love, he chose to create the Heavens and Earth that have resulted in our presence today. The thousands of years man has lived on Earth may seem exhausting and overwhelming to us, yet they're only a speck when viewed on the timeline of eternity.

For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; II Corinthians 4:17

[Old_Geezer]

"God knew every outcome of every option available to Him"

So you agree everything is God's fault then ? In which case when will God experience this justice you refer to ?

[Canary42]

Why do you keep quoting a work of fiction to support your misguided beliefs ?

[youngmafbog]

Well, assuming you are right about this fictional God, explain why his disciples have waged so much war? I would call that a dismal failure in your Gods part, particularly ones like The Crusades.

[nailedit]

//Before the original creation, God knew every outcome of every option available to Him//
And yet still went ahead with the horrific idea of hell (That he created) for those that cannot believe without good evidence and for no good reason?

Yeah!
That sounds reasonable....

[nailedit]

And well aware that goodlife is a JW and doesnt believe in 'hell'
as such!
Still a disgusting belief in God though!
And the mental tortures that the followers of his disgusting religion go through.

[goodlife]

You know scientists have debated the nature of time. “Time is one of the world’s deepest mysteries,” states one encyclopedia. “No one can say exactly what it is.” Yet, Jehovah fully understands time. After all, he is “the Creator of the heavens, . . . the Former of the earth and the Maker of it.” Jehovah is also “the One telling from the beginning the finale, and from long ago the things that have not been done.” (Isa. 45:18; 46:10) With purpose to strengthening our faith in him and in his Word, the Bible, do you consider how creation and fulfilled prophecy show that God is the Great Timekeeper.

[goodlife]

One fact that one has understanding now is no assurance that this understanding will be his for all time.
To be retained, an understanding one must be in good standing with Jehovah because without getting a proper understanding in the case of Jesus and his disciples it was not a matter of being unable to obtain these earthly advantages.
Jesus could have had all of them; he possessed abilities such as no other man who walked this earth.
He had faith based on understanding that when he went see to it that he had enough to eat, that he obtained the necessary sleep he required and had sufficient clothing. The same is of his true disciples. Guaranteeing these things. (Matt 6:33-34) That is why Jehovah people are the happy on earth.

[Peter Pedant]

As it is written in the book of the words of Esaias the prophet, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

this is beginning of John innit
ego he phony boontos en th eremy -
euthunate tyn hodon tou kuriou

(lightning quick googling there, Naomi)

john el bapteesto - and then sees Christ - and say - behold the lambo of God who taketh away the sins of the world.

[Peter Pedant]

It is / was necessary from a christological pint of view
to front up bits of the OT as prophecy for the New.

this is one.
of
man recoord of governing in the name of God has been a failure as well. Is this a case of giving to caesar what is caesar's ?

[nailedit]

//As the Bible says.​—Eccl. 8:9. “Man has dominated man to his injury,”//
What the hell is that even supposed to mean???

Oh yeah!
Whatever you want it to mean!
There are over 31,000 verses in the Bible!
Pick anyone and make it say what you want it to say.

[nailedit]

//As it is written in the book of the words of Esaias the prophet,//

How about sticking to the words of the Bible?
(Since this is what it is about)