Wiz, That description of Abu Hamza and a pilchard could easily fit Gordon Brown as well!
I've read the Koran and it's quite contradictory. The thing is Doctor Spock, Islam isn't just a religion - it's a whole way of life - and this is what is going to be shoved down our throats as time goes on. Our country is changing out of all recognition, and with the curtailment of freedom of speech and laws turning practically all free thought into a 'phobia' of some sort rather than an opinion, it's going from bad to worse. Many people seem to jump on the politically correct bandwagon and accept these laws, and many have become complacent, but what happens to those who do speak out? They're hauled off to jail - but only if they're an indiginous Brit.
Many muslims do truly hate the west, and they're never going to change. They're fanatics, they're barbarically cruel and they think in a completely different way to western people. There could be no reasoning with them because they don't 'live and let live'. It's more likely they'd say 'live our way or not at all'.
A friend of mine, married to an Englishman, told me she was Buddhist, and for five years I believed her. One day she said she needed to confess she'd lied because she is in fact muslim but she doesn't tell anyone. She hates what the muslims are doing - and what we're allowing them to do - and so do I. The lunatics have taken over the asylum, and this is no longer a free country.
Wiz, you've got my vote too!!