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Anyone trully believe in life after death??
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Can anybody out there %100 put their hand on their heart and say that they beleive that the dead are still around looking over our shoulder??? Maybe you have seen a ghost, or been told something by a suppose spiritualist?? I have many different thoughts and beleifs but i can say about 96% that i believe in life after death!!
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Kyra16!! I cant imagine not believing in anything at all!! Surely its really scary to live life and totally beleive that there is nothing once we are dead? Are you not really scared?? Its like the Muse tune "Thoughts of a dying aethist"!! do u think that that is why most people do believe in something?? They are so scared of death that they have made themselves belive that there is something once we are gone???
I don't believe death is the end for us. I'm not particularly religious, I believe in parts in the teachings of different religions. I've often wondered about Heaven & Hell - is this Hell (sometimes it feels like) and when we die, do we move on to a better place? I need something to hold on to - the belief that we will meet those we love again, after we die. I also believe in re-incarnation, both animals & humans, and I believe (against the Christian teachings) that animals have souls, the same as humans do.
I cant say that I 100% believe in life after death but I would like to think that there is something.
But like you said, taliesin I think I only believe this because Iam scared of death.
I cant think about the possiblity of nothing after death, when I do I get a horrible feeling inside so I tend not to dwell on these thoughts lol
But yeah, life seems a bit pointless if you are put here for like, a fraction of the existance of life, then just taken away again. If you know what I mean?!
But like you said, taliesin I think I only believe this because Iam scared of death.
I cant think about the possiblity of nothing after death, when I do I get a horrible feeling inside so I tend not to dwell on these thoughts lol
But yeah, life seems a bit pointless if you are put here for like, a fraction of the existance of life, then just taken away again. If you know what I mean?!
Life after death is impossible to prove to be untrue. Like the existence of god though, that doesn't automatically mean that it IS true!
As a child I have had 2 experiences where I thought I had seen a ghost. I was petrified on both occasions and I remember them well. Since growing up they have both been easily explained - the first due to pareidolia, the second hypnogogia. Also, note how there are so many reports of human ghost sightings but animal ghost sightings are so rare? Yet I'm sure myriad more animals die than humans every day! Or do ghost believers think us humans are "higher beings" than other animals?
This follows a similar trend to the god/religion debate, and there are people who don't believe in god but who do believe in ghosts. This is just as illogical. There's a stack of evidence against god for example, but people continue to believe in religion and god and whatnot to make themselves feel better. Similarly, there's a stack of evidence against the existence of ghosts and yet people have adopted a lie into their psyche in order to deal with the not-very-flattering notion of death meaning the end. An eternal dreamless sleep is how I think of it. Both theories also put human beings (unsurprisingly) in a higher rank of importance than other animals.
I don't even know why people are so keen to subscribe to this life-after-death thing anyway. Imagine walking around in a house for all eternity, it would become rather boring, yes? I'd rather not know I was dead than to know it!
As a child I have had 2 experiences where I thought I had seen a ghost. I was petrified on both occasions and I remember them well. Since growing up they have both been easily explained - the first due to pareidolia, the second hypnogogia. Also, note how there are so many reports of human ghost sightings but animal ghost sightings are so rare? Yet I'm sure myriad more animals die than humans every day! Or do ghost believers think us humans are "higher beings" than other animals?
This follows a similar trend to the god/religion debate, and there are people who don't believe in god but who do believe in ghosts. This is just as illogical. There's a stack of evidence against god for example, but people continue to believe in religion and god and whatnot to make themselves feel better. Similarly, there's a stack of evidence against the existence of ghosts and yet people have adopted a lie into their psyche in order to deal with the not-very-flattering notion of death meaning the end. An eternal dreamless sleep is how I think of it. Both theories also put human beings (unsurprisingly) in a higher rank of importance than other animals.
I don't even know why people are so keen to subscribe to this life-after-death thing anyway. Imagine walking around in a house for all eternity, it would become rather boring, yes? I'd rather not know I was dead than to know it!
I though I saw the ghost of an animal once, my dog was put to sleep around 6 years ago, I often think I see him hovering on the landing outside my bedroom where he used to sleep.
I have also had two extremely frightening experiences where I have thought I've seen human ghosts. I never want to see another again, one of them in particular was the most horrible experience I've ever had.
I have also had two extremely frightening experiences where I have thought I've seen human ghosts. I never want to see another again, one of them in particular was the most horrible experience I've ever had.
Ghosts who supposedly haunt dont spend all eternity haunting a place or building!! Once we are dead we can visit anyone, anywhere we want to!! there are supposedly some ghosts who have so many strong emotions around a place that they become possibly obsessed with staying there or visiting that place!! They can also become obsessed with an object. These are the ghosts who are said to 'haunt'.......if you beleive in that sort of thing that is!!
Oh campfire was that sleep paralysis you were going on about??? Thats really interesting!! I get it ALL the time and have done since i was a kid!! I no know when i get it and expect the hallucenations when i get it!! you just have to ride it out and wait for your body to pull yourself out of it!! Its crazy but fascinating
I said this recently on a post about angry ghost's and whether they exist and can force people out of their home.
"I think there is a chance it is true, and until people witness it for themself they will more than likely say it's complete cr*p.
I believe people who we know and/or love when they die are still around so to speak, they are in heaven, but seem to keep a certain presence around us on a daily basis. The bond even after death between two people stays, and the more the connection say a husband and wife/ lovers is stronger than say someone you met once or twice. They seem to be there with you, maybe they are just noisy lol ....no I think it's lovely.
You might be thinking oooo freak well I have never seen anything and just believe in the presence of the ones you love.
If there was an angry presence, then it might be a liitle more 'active' and will show itself. I think the people we love don't show themselves because they think it would be more detrimental and upseting than us just thinking their around in 'spirit'
"I think there is a chance it is true, and until people witness it for themself they will more than likely say it's complete cr*p.
I believe people who we know and/or love when they die are still around so to speak, they are in heaven, but seem to keep a certain presence around us on a daily basis. The bond even after death between two people stays, and the more the connection say a husband and wife/ lovers is stronger than say someone you met once or twice. They seem to be there with you, maybe they are just noisy lol ....no I think it's lovely.
You might be thinking oooo freak well I have never seen anything and just believe in the presence of the ones you love.
If there was an angry presence, then it might be a liitle more 'active' and will show itself. I think the people we love don't show themselves because they think it would be more detrimental and upseting than us just thinking their around in 'spirit'
I think you need to think of it slightly differently.
In order to survive death you first have to survive life.
Look at people who have sustained brain injury - where are "they" what is this bit of you that survives death where has it gone in these people?
The most celebrated case was a railroad worker called Phineas Gage in the 19th century who survived a metal spike in the brain.
http://www.mc.maricopa.edu/dept/d10/asb/anthro 2003/origins/phineas.html
His personality totally changed his friends said "Gage was no longer Gage".
To survive death you must first survive life - I'd suggest to you that you can't - I wish I was wrong - but I don't see how
In order to survive death you first have to survive life.
Look at people who have sustained brain injury - where are "they" what is this bit of you that survives death where has it gone in these people?
The most celebrated case was a railroad worker called Phineas Gage in the 19th century who survived a metal spike in the brain.
http://www.mc.maricopa.edu/dept/d10/asb/anthro 2003/origins/phineas.html
His personality totally changed his friends said "Gage was no longer Gage".
To survive death you must first survive life - I'd suggest to you that you can't - I wish I was wrong - but I don't see how
I'm with Kyra - you die, you're dead, you only 'live' on in the memories of those left behind.
As to whether this is comforting or not, it's kind of irrelevant really. If we measured truth by how comforting something was we'd be in a very bad state.
With that said, it did used to bother me, but now I'm generally relaxed about the notion. A lot of it - most of it - is just ego - as organisms, we find it hard to believe that we could possbily cease to be, but thinking rationally, this is a nonsense.
We are comprised of a few atoms in the vastness of the universe. I could place a small weight on the zero key of my keyboard and leave it to run forever and still wouldn't have enough noughts to express the atoms that make me as a fraction of all atoms in the universe. On a universal scale, we are so irrelevant it defies computation. If we had never existed, the universe could scarecely notice less, even the most influential person ever (Brian Blessed) is irrelevant on a universal scale. Why should we worry about something of such inconsequence?
We also know that we did not exist before a certain point in time. Was that painful or scary?
Being scared of dying makes sense - that may involve pain or dementia - being scared of death is pretty pointless.
As to whether this is comforting or not, it's kind of irrelevant really. If we measured truth by how comforting something was we'd be in a very bad state.
With that said, it did used to bother me, but now I'm generally relaxed about the notion. A lot of it - most of it - is just ego - as organisms, we find it hard to believe that we could possbily cease to be, but thinking rationally, this is a nonsense.
We are comprised of a few atoms in the vastness of the universe. I could place a small weight on the zero key of my keyboard and leave it to run forever and still wouldn't have enough noughts to express the atoms that make me as a fraction of all atoms in the universe. On a universal scale, we are so irrelevant it defies computation. If we had never existed, the universe could scarecely notice less, even the most influential person ever (Brian Blessed) is irrelevant on a universal scale. Why should we worry about something of such inconsequence?
We also know that we did not exist before a certain point in time. Was that painful or scary?
Being scared of dying makes sense - that may involve pain or dementia - being scared of death is pretty pointless.
No.
I'd honestly really like to but I don't.
I believe that all our lives are connected with the world we live in and that for each thing we do we start a chain of events. I think that we have a bond with every living thing on this planet whether we like it or not. I'm sure I can bend my own universe to my way of thinking.
But I don't believe that when I die there will be a life after death. I think we just shut down.
It's really comforting to believe in it. But well... 'comforting' don't make it so.
I'd honestly really like to but I don't.
I believe that all our lives are connected with the world we live in and that for each thing we do we start a chain of events. I think that we have a bond with every living thing on this planet whether we like it or not. I'm sure I can bend my own universe to my way of thinking.
But I don't believe that when I die there will be a life after death. I think we just shut down.
It's really comforting to believe in it. But well... 'comforting' don't make it so.
It's almost possible to envy people who believe in an afterlife because it's the one great illusion about which you can never be disillusioned.
You can go through your whole life with the comfortable thought that death will open up something new and wonderful, but when your eyes finally close and you disappear into that black nothingness that commonsense tells us will be our lot, you'll have no consciousness left with which to realise that you had been wrong all the time.
But, tempting as it is, I can't bring myself to believe utter nonsense whatever the emotional rewards.
You can go through your whole life with the comfortable thought that death will open up something new and wonderful, but when your eyes finally close and you disappear into that black nothingness that commonsense tells us will be our lot, you'll have no consciousness left with which to realise that you had been wrong all the time.
But, tempting as it is, I can't bring myself to believe utter nonsense whatever the emotional rewards.
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