circular

[jojojojoanne]

what about the idea of science, spirituality and religion being circular ?

[Theland]

..... as in, "The arguments keep going around in circles?"
Is that what you mean?

[WaldoMcFroog]

I'm not aware of the idea. Can you expand?

[Theland]

I think these three subjects taken together may fit more into an oval idea rather than a circular one.
That way, two opposing arguments could be closer together than two other opposing arguments that would be obviously further apart, but that would upset the equilibrium of your theory, wouldn't it?

[beryllium]

As in the fifth dimension jo??? being rolled up very small...

[ruby27]

I wondered if it was a bit like a spectrum, where the far extremes as so similar they meet.

[Theland]

I've been pondering this one again, and I must say, I think jo has something here.
Couldn't we expand on this them a little more?

[jojojojoanne]

The whole reason for debate,(in a broader context) if looked at in an unbiased view is not conclusive. So therefore in a way arguments could be seen to be fallacy, logic, circular reasoning (what theories are not?) and 'perhaps' the way forward: stepping outside the perimeter of the 'said circle' consider the merging of the circles, looking beyond 'the circles'? the relationship patterns between arguments at different points within 'ovals/circles' (religion, spirituality and science)

[Theland]

I was beginning to think along the same lines myself. A sort of cohesion that exists and relates one to the other. Circular.
Is that what you mean?

[beryllium]

Mathematicians look in/out from the circle all the time theoretically so it can never be conclusive.

[Theland]

beryllium - It may not be conclusive, but I bet jojojojoanne has got you thinking!

[beryllium]

Hi Theland and jo x4
I rather like the way jo writes.

I was only asking our dearest mathmetician friend yesterday to explain the N theory to me in dimensions...

Finite size scaling for O(N) φ4-theory at the upper critical dimension

She lost me after what do you want to know???..... :D

[Theland]

I have trouble taking the top off my pill bottle!

[beryllium]

Well that's circular ;)

[Theland]

beryllium - I know! I have trouble with circles!
That's why I'm ill - I can't get at my medication!

[beryllium]

oh no!!! let's think outside the circle then. Ask if they come in popper packets lol.

That's the science bit, and easier on the spiritual bit and then you don't have to give up religiously taking them....

[Theland]

beryllium - That's exactly what jjjja said - about stepping outside of the circle.
You two think alike you know.

[beryllium]

like getting blood out of a stone innit???... I'm going back in me bubble now... :)

[Theland]

I'm waiting for jjjja to come back with another nugget we can dwell on.

[chakka35]

I thought that jjjjanne's question was pretty meaningless to begin with, and the subsequent waffle seems to have confirmed it.

Did you mean, jjjjanne, that each of the three could be seen as a circle, with those circles overlapping so as to produuce common areas?
If so, the the answer is no. Religion and sprituality certainly overlap, but science has nothing in common with either.

[beryllium]

'ello Chakka :)
Poor Jx4. Insulting her by saying her q. was meaningless and then going on to try and give reason to it :D

Science is theoretical too. So yep, it will cross over with religion and spirituality.

p.s I rather like waffles.