Curing the deluded

[naomi24]

People who claim to live in haunted houses, and claim to see or hear ghosts, are usually deemed irrational and deluded by those who don't believe in such things. If they are, indeed, irrational and deluded, why is it that they often haven't experienced such things prior to moving into a particular house, and why upon moving on again to the next house, do their apparent delusions and irrationality cease immediately?

[another-view]

Because no-one is interested in their nonsense stories and so they stop making them up, at a guess.

I remember someone I know said their house was haunted as the radiators kept banging in the night. Turned out to be a faulty thermostat.

[sara3]

apparently I was "deluded" for one week of my life while I was on holiday. I assume the woman seen going in to in my room was a cleaner, perhaps, in the middle of the night while I was in bed. and the fact that my bed moved and wardrobe doors rattled in the night.. well, perhaps there was a draught.

fortunately, I recovered when I got back to my own home!

[Ankou]

surely it is up to those that apparently experience it to exaplin their irrational behaviour from one house to the next.

[ll_billym]

Well I don't personally know anyone who claims to have lived in a haunted house. This is probably no accident but the point is that I didn't know there were rational people who lead life of complete sanity, lived in one house where they saw ghosts, happenings, visitations or whatever else, moved house and never saw another thing.

I did a quick search on Google but most of the links were of the 'yeh i liv in a haunted house my brother seen an old man at the bottom of the stairs' type with no before or after story at all.

Can you provide some links to the type of person/story you describe please?

[naomi24]

Sorry, Il_billym, no I can't provide links. I've never looked for any, and apart from that, I don't believe that experiences like this are restricted to a specific type of person. All I can say is I lived in a 'haunted' house - but none of my previous, nor any of my subsequent homes, have ever had uninvited guests.

[naomi24]

Sara, I'm confused. Didn't you ever ask this woman what she was doing in your room in the middle of the night? If a cleaner came into my room in the middle of the night, I'd not only want to know what she was doing there - I'd want to know why she didn't knock and wait to be told to come in.

[sara3]

naomi, we had booked a week in a caravan on a farm, where all manner of bizarre things happened. my friend saw a figure of a woman going into my bedroom in the middle of the night, and the woman stopped and waved at my friend.

sorry, my last message took a special tone intended for another-view! I would swear that place was haunted and so would my friend, and we left early because it was so bloody frightening.

[pericat]

Was anyone watching the one show tonight - apparently there is an eye disease where you can see visions - scientifically proven - will look up name and get back to you

[pericat]

Its called - Charles Bonnet Syndrome - would paste but cant

[naomi24]

Oh, I see Sara. I thought you meant you were in a hotel - hence the cleaner. Someone a few years back told a similar story to yours about a caravan holiday. She said she left early too. Can't say I blame her - or you!

[naomi24]

Pericat, that wouldn't explain why someone experiences odd things in one house but not in another though, would it?

[sara3]

something actually reminded me of this incident today, and I found the farm's website and have mailed them to see if they've had other reports.. I'll let you know!

of course, they may just think I'm nuts :o)

[Ankou]

sorry sara, but the haunted caravan made me pmsl !! lol.

i have known lots of people go on caravan holidays and then leave early !!

[flobadob]

I would love to go into a haunted house.

[chakka35]

If someone would tell me, please, how to attach a photograph to a post I'll show you a 'ghost' picture I took a little while ago.

[Androcles]

I stayed once in the hotel near Bicester which was used to film "Anne of a Thousand Days", which was supposedly haunted and has an Undercroft where the wine was stored. The Porter, who used to work at one of the Oxford Colleges, took us on a visit to the Undercroft and remarked: "If you see the ghost, he is most likely to indicate "What are you having!"" My kind of ghost - sadly he never turned up.......

[ludwig]

Ankou - 'surely it is up to those that apparently experience it to exaplin their irrational behaviour from one house to the next.'
They do. They say 'I lived in a house where I saw ghosts and then I moved to a different house and stopped seeing them. I conclude that the first house was haunted and the second one wasn't'. Perhaps you didn't read the question properly. It's about how those who don't believe in ghosts would explain the same set of circumstances.

[ludwig]

I saw the program about Charles Bonnet syndrome pericat - very interesting..more here

http://www.dailymail....eyve-lost-senses.html

..probably explains alot of ghost sightings, but as Naomi says, it wouldn't explain why they are usually linked to particular places.

[redcrx]

i am a believer in whatwe call ghosts. But i would believe that all sightings / noises / movements etc are ghosts.

Most of the time there is a rational explanation for things. Houses creaking as they cool down of an eve, radiators banging, wood contracting, vehicles passing by causing house to move and such like.

I wouldnt call anyone irrational or deluded though.

[Ankou]

ludwig, i would say that neither house was haunted, they just experienced someting incidental that they attributed to ghostly goings on. sometimes this is because of the age or condition of the house, or the weather outside - or a whole host of secondary reasons (animals, trees etc etc etc). people are less likely to believe that a brand new house is haunted than a really old one, so more often the psyche of some (or many people) is prepositioned to confirm that any noise etc is supernatural (ignoring the secondary) as believing a house or its material components can physically move (with temperature and ground conditions, not spritual entities) is just plain ridiculous, right ?