is this right?

[sherminator]

http://news.bbc.co.uk...ld/europe/8480161.stm


Have to say I personally agree with this ruling. Happy for people to come up with a good argument against and happy to change my views as well if someone can think why this isnt a good thing!

[jackthehat]

.............and I don't think that there is any doubt about the identity of the person under the veil during her short walk down the aisle in front of her invited guests......!?!

[123everton]

I don't support discrimination, I support freedom of expression.
If there is a ban on veils (or face coverings) in state buildings then that would have to include wedding veils, would it not?
If not there would have to be a dispensation for such occurences, or a regulated amount of how much of the face is visible above or through the veil.
I'm not being silly, the law banning veils is, silliness is what you get when you draft bad law, I predict a lot of civil disobedience in France if this law comes in, good on em too.

[ummmm]

No it wouldn't. The bride puts down the veil before she walks up the aisle and her groom removes it at the alter. All watched by people that know him/her.

I think you're just being silly with this one.

[123everton]

So, if a Muslim woman in a veil reveals her face upon entry she can then walk freely around the building?
I'm not being silly, this is how law functions, this is what happens when you try to draft silly laws, you have to work out all the circumstances to treat all individuals fairly.
The dissenters are clearly saying, that the law is a good idea, just so long as it doesn't apply to me.
Nothing new in that, we all want rules and we'd all like to be the exception to the rules.

[jackthehat]

Stop being daft, 123everton.
Any such bill could be drafted to take account of 'wedding circumstances'.


Oh, yes it could !

[ummmm]

I have yet to see a bride spending the rest of the wedding day with her veil down.

Yes you are being silly.

[123everton]

Right, the veil is being banned within public buildings as per the proposal, as Jack said an exemption could be wrought for weddings, but that then makes the law discriminatory, you keep saying I'm being silly, I'm not, the idea itself is wholly silly, it's a knee jerk popularist reactionary pick on weak minority cos some people will like it.
I'd hate to be a Muslim woman right now as, apparently, the men think that they can not think for themselves, whilst the west think (know?) they can't think for themselves and they both want to control you.

[jackthehat]

The law cannot be discriminatory.
It will refer to 'brides' (of either gender) of any race, colour or creed.
I'd like to see the first test-case against it...........

[craft1948]

I see Italy are thinking of banning it now.....that's Berlusconi buggered...

[123everton]

I think there'll be chaos in France if this comes about, I believe there are enough right minded, brave people who will refuse to acquiesce to this vile piece of legislation.

[naomi24]

Everton, your objection to discrimination only seems to apply where Muslims are concerned. After all, if Muslim women can enter a shop with their faces hidden, why can't the people who wear motorbike helmets?

[123everton]

When there's an outbreak of burkha clad criminality, I'll reconsider.
I won't hold my breath.
I appear to be in a minority on this thread, I possess neither the wish, desire or the inclination to control others or impose my will on them.

[naomi24]

So you ignore what's being imposed on members of our society, so long as burka-clad women aren't included. You're clearly a man of great principle, Everton. ;o)