The trinity explained.................

[mummybunny6]

The trinity teaches that God asked himself to go to earth to save mankind.
Then he agreed with himself and volunteered himself to himself to offer himself.
Then God impregnated a woman as himself, with himself.
God prayed to himself and glorified himself repeatedly.
God strengthened himself and talked to himself.
Finally God forsook himself and sacrificed himself to prove his loyalty to himself.
While dead he resurrected himself so he could exalt himself above himself.
Then he sat at his own right hand and waited til he placed his enemies as a footstool
Finally with Satan's forces defeated God would turn his kingdom over to himself
That all things would become everything to himself.
Simple, isn't it?

[jno]

you've only got two aspects of the trinity there; try harder. (Or cut and paste from someone who can count instead of someone who can't.)

[jake-the-peg]

Here's an alternative explanation

Christianity was picked up by Paul ( a gentile) and spread throughout the Roman (Polytheistic world)

Christ crucifixion served as a sacrafice metaphore in the way that most people in the Roman World were used to and could identify with in a polytheistic contect.

Christ (a minor God) sacrifices himself in order to appease the prime God who then rewards his sacrifice by raising him from the dead - if you make sacrifices in that way God will do the same for you.

Great story - plays well - has echoes of Persephone in the underworld,

Only trouble is selling it to the fiercely monotheistic Jewish world - so we get this Half God half man Trinity fudge which breaks down as soon as you prod it.
And you've prodded it so very well.

I think that Christianity is essentially polytheistic and hangs together so much better if you consider it in that context.

[tamborine]

what else does a wandering arab do in the desert

[naomi24]

Actually, Paul wasn't a gentile - he was a Jew with Roman citizenship.

I'm sure Mummybunny will correct me if I'm wrong, and I aplogise now if I am, but I strongly suspect she is a Jehovah's Witness, and is attempting to disparage the idea of the Trinity simply because she adheres to an alternative doctrine which is, nonetheless, similarly based on hocus pocus.

[beso]

jno ///you've only got two aspects of the trinity there; try harder. ///

The Holy Ghost was the messenger between God and Himself.

[jake-the-peg]

Yes you're right - my mistake

But it still makes more sense from a polytheistic viewpoint

[naomi24]

I don't think it does, Jake. The Trinity was specifically invented in order to elevate the status of Jesus from son of God to God himself, and so viewing Christianity as a polytheistic religion is not only erroneous - it defeats the object entirely. The three (with the Holy Ghost thrown into the mix) are one.

[mibn2cweus]

It all makes perfect sense when seen for what it is; lies compounding lies all in an attempt to reconcile the irreconcilable, not for the sake of guiding but for leading those voluntarily blinded by the faith that somehow believing usurps reality if only you can succeed through a process of selective 'reasoning' in completely obscuring your own objectivity and confounding your own rationality

[flobadob]

Or, he read an older story and twisted it around to suit himself. Oh sweet moses, God is a plagiarist.

[jake-the-peg]

Well that's kind of what I mean Naomi - that elevation gets around the rather messy situation with the "Son of God"

What is a Son of God but some minor deity?

Anathema to the Jewish mindset.

Follow it on a few centuries and they've added in the mother of the son of God who can intercede with the son of God on our behalf and saints lower down the hierarchy etc. etc.

From where I look at it Christianity is deeply polytheistic and the doctrine of the Trinity is simply a cover up to disguise this

[naomi24]

Jake, I can see why you say that. An onlooker could easily be forgiven for thinking Mary and the saints are considered to be minor deities, but they aren't. You are right in saying they are intercessors, but that's all they are. Because of their alleged 'holiness' and their supposed close proximity to God in heaven, people ask them to pray to him on their behalf. It seems they think they have a better chance of the boss listening if someone they view as important puts the problem before him. According to the Christian church there is only one God - even if it has endowed him with three faces. ;o)

[keyplus90]

What about God’s mother? Don’t you think she was even a bigger goddess as she gave birth to a god whose father was god too. Any way Christianity is learning slowly and that is the reason word “begotten” has been thrown out of the revised version. It would need few more revisions to get trinity out.

[naomi24]

Mummybunny, are you going to come back and explain the point of your question?

[chakka35]

There is another Trinity problem, just as worthy of discussion as that one: that of the Three Bears. We're expected to believe that they complained that somebody had been eating their porridge and sleeping in their beds, but zoologists tell us that bears can't talk.

How does anyone explain that?

[naomi24]

Well, I'll have a go, Chakka. You see, fairy tales and religion have much in common. They both need magic to make them work.

[Ankou]

so zoologists said they can't talk but made no comment on the supposed domesticaiton and living arrangements, as well as their capacity to make porridge and eat it.

it makes you wonder what else these zoologists missed eh.

[chakka35]

naomi and Ankou, yes, lots to be fathomed here. Isn't life complicated?