snake voices ?

jomifl | 07:42 Thu 12th Aug 2010 | Religion & Spirituality

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Recently discovered on wiki answers( like answerbank but without the funny bits) that snakes do not have vocal cords. This undermines the credibility of the first testament from page 1 (or is it 2?). I suppose a resourceful serpent could spell words out by making letter shapes with its body, but that would pre-suppose that writing had been invented. It does not say in the first testament ' on the ..th.day He create the page and the words that were written upon it' so it must have come a bit later.

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naomi24

There are many things that undermine the credibility of the whole of the bible - but I know that Harry Potter spoke to a snake at the zoo and he can definitely speak parseltongue, so are you sure Wiki's got it right? ;o)

jomifl

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wiki is always right, its my bible.

jomifl

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I can speak to snakes too, fortunately they never answer back

naomi24

Ah, well you see, you can't speak parseltongue - and snakes don't understand 'foreign'. ;o)

chakka35

Gosh, I knew that there was some little thing that makes Genesis suspect as history.

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jomifl

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you don't understand chakka, genisis is not a theory, if it was we could all discuss it and decide whether it was possibly true or a right load of tosh. As it is it is the authoratative account of the creation of the earth and all the things....etc so it is absolutely true in every respect. Absolutely! If there are any bits that you can't understand the fault must lie with you and not the WORD. got that? good.

naomi24

Yeah, but see, jomifl, most of it's really really really true, but that bit's metaphorical, just like some of the other bits. ;o)

Clanad

Except (for the purpose of accuracy) Genesis 3:1 doesn't say "snake" (nor anywhere else when relating to Satan). It says "serpent"... but that doesn't accurately translate the Hebrew word actually employed, that being ''saraph nachash' '. One of the meanings of this word, especially in context, is "shining" or "Shining One".

This compares well with other renderings in the Old Covenant, especially Isaiah 14:15 and Ezekiel 28:16 where the casting out of heaven of Satan is described. Apparently Satan was the highest order of angel created, and the leader of the choir, so to speak, when pride was found in him (See also Job 38:4-7 and II Corinthians 11:14)...

jomifl

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The difficulty appears to lie in deciding which bits are metaphorical, which bits are allegorical and which bits are bollical and also what the words really mean, A serpent is a snake, not a lizard (they don't have vocal cords either)or anything else. I concede that there may have been a problem with the translation, but shouldn't it have been corrected by now?

jomifl

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If some things are 'really really really true ' a degree of relativity in truth is implied otherwise they would or wouldn't be just true. If we can have varying degrees of truth then there must come a point on the scale of truth where things are more untrue than true ie. untrue.

naomi24

Clanad, of course that’s absolutely right, and as far as I‘m aware the Hebrew translation of Satan is ‘adversary‘, so no snake there either.

Jomifl I’m just being facetious because the idea of a snake talking and tempting people into sinful ways is so daft. Personally, although I don’t believe in any religion, I do believe the bible contains a lot of history and if we can sort the hocus pocus out from the fact, we might get somewhere in learning more about our past. I can’t see anything relating to the humbug that’s been drummed into people’s heads for centuries ever being altered though.

jomifl

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It was a metaphor..wasn't it?

naomi24

Yes, it was. It wasn't a snake at all.

McMouse

Snakes do speak in a manner of speaking. They sort of mime and the other snakes lip-read.
So it was in the beginning when the serpent "spoke" to Eve. She, being blonde, wasn't very good at the old lip-reading business and mistook what the snake said about the Tree of Knowledge. Fine mess she got us into.

Clanad

So... I suppose you'd have a problem with the talking donkey in Numbers Chapter 22:22...

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