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The Book of Ath
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contributions of fundamental truths from Atheists please
refutations from believers in whatever ..
refutations from believers in whatever ..
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The Ten Commitments
There is no god but no god.
Thou shalt have no other gods before no god.
Thou shalt fully appreciate no god with all your reason.
Thou shalt defend no god against all comers.
Remember all the arguments for no god, and keep them holey
Thou shalt not tolerate non-falsifiable witness
Thou shalt not steal, except ideas from each other.
Thou shalt not commit adulteration of absolute and incontrovertible truth.
Thou shalt kill any notion of there must be something out there y'know.
Thou shalt covet if thou wantest, but try not to.
No god will reward you in the keeping of the same
There is no god but no god.
Thou shalt have no other gods before no god.
Thou shalt fully appreciate no god with all your reason.
Thou shalt defend no god against all comers.
Remember all the arguments for no god, and keep them holey
Thou shalt not tolerate non-falsifiable witness
Thou shalt not steal, except ideas from each other.
Thou shalt not commit adulteration of absolute and incontrovertible truth.
Thou shalt kill any notion of there must be something out there y'know.
Thou shalt covet if thou wantest, but try not to.
No god will reward you in the keeping of the same
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"In the beginning there was no beginning because either everything always existed or if time started with the big bang everything always existed.(because time cannot exist without matter)"
Isn't that pretty much what the Bible says? It adds that God existed first, to explain where the big bang came from; Ath doesn't have an explanation for this yet.
(I think the 'everything always existed' theory has been ruled out, hasn't it? Apologies if I'm out fo date on this.)
Isn't that pretty much what the Bible says? It adds that God existed first, to explain where the big bang came from; Ath doesn't have an explanation for this yet.
(I think the 'everything always existed' theory has been ruled out, hasn't it? Apologies if I'm out fo date on this.)
I don't have a copy or the old testament to hand and it is about 55 or more years since I read any of it but I think it goes something like this ' god created the heavens and the earth and every thing upon it..'
This statement presumes the pre-existence of god which begs the question 'where did god come from?' If the answer is that god always existed then why couldn't the universe have always existed. If the universe has to have been created then god has to have been created and so on. It just pushes the question back one step or many steps until we run out of ideas.
This statement presumes the pre-existence of god which begs the question 'where did god come from?' If the answer is that god always existed then why couldn't the universe have always existed. If the universe has to have been created then god has to have been created and so on. It just pushes the question back one step or many steps until we run out of ideas.
Can I get with Jomifl on this thread? It would be genuinely interesting to generate something like the Book of Ath as a collection of fundamental truths shared by atheists/rational fundamentalists (I made that second one up, but I think its a decent enough epithet). It might demonstrate how hard it is to pull a truth system together, and it might also give some contributors here a chance to create something positive rather than just knocking seven bells out of us not-atheists.