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After all the recent hype in the media regarding halal slaughtered food being foisted upon non-muslims, and doing losts of research myself I really do not want to eat this stuff. But how can I avoid it when nothing is labelled as such. I know I would of unwittingly have eaten it in the past, as most weekends we would have an 'indian' takeaway. Now I have discovered they are not Indian owned but Pakistani/Bangledeshi so they only serve halal meat. I will never again go into one of these restaurants/takeaways. Surley there should be a law for clear labelling of this foodstuff. Many schools are also serving this to non muslim pupils, though having checked with my sons school they do not serve it.
Surley it is against our human rights to have this foisted upon us with no warning, so we can at least have a choice as to whether we wish to eat it or not.
I have e-mailed several 'indians', pubs and brewers fayre places etc and have been told they do serve it, mainly chicken and new zealand lamb, although they only use animals which have been pre-stunned. Pre-stunning is not acceptable to me as this only renders the animal unconcious for around 20seconds so it is still alive whilst it's throat is slit and left to bleed to death.
I know organisations such as the RSPCA and DEFRA do not agree with halal slaughter, but the govt will not ban it.
How could I find out about my human rights on this, I do not want to have this served to me unknowingly and feel strong enough about it that if I find out I am being served it without my knowledge I will sue.
Apart from go veggie, is there an other option to ensure we are not eating it.
Surley it is against our human rights to have this foisted upon us with no warning, so we can at least have a choice as to whether we wish to eat it or not.
I have e-mailed several 'indians', pubs and brewers fayre places etc and have been told they do serve it, mainly chicken and new zealand lamb, although they only use animals which have been pre-stunned. Pre-stunning is not acceptable to me as this only renders the animal unconcious for around 20seconds so it is still alive whilst it's throat is slit and left to bleed to death.
I know organisations such as the RSPCA and DEFRA do not agree with halal slaughter, but the govt will not ban it.
How could I find out about my human rights on this, I do not want to have this served to me unknowingly and feel strong enough about it that if I find out I am being served it without my knowledge I will sue.
Apart from go veggie, is there an other option to ensure we are not eating it.
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Going vegetarian is not the answer.
In this country the law about the slaughter of animals is very strict and is only relaxed to allow Halal for the consumption of Muslims only. A similar exception is for Kosher slaughters for the Jewish community.
My MP is...
In this country the law about the slaughter of animals is very strict and is only relaxed to allow Halal for the consumption of Muslims only. A similar exception is for Kosher slaughters for the Jewish community.
My MP is...
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Buy from your local butcher and ask.
Only eat pork when you eat out.
Petition your MP to make labelling very clear.
Write to the big supermarkets stating you will not buy any meat, except pork, from them until it is clearly labelled.
By the way, a lot of Indians are Muslims so you cannot be guaranteed of non-halal meat by eating in an Indian and not Pakistani restaurant.
Only eat pork when you eat out.
Petition your MP to make labelling very clear.
Write to the big supermarkets stating you will not buy any meat, except pork, from them until it is clearly labelled.
By the way, a lot of Indians are Muslims so you cannot be guaranteed of non-halal meat by eating in an Indian and not Pakistani restaurant.
milly, a lot of Muslims will not eat the 'halal' meat in supermarkets because much of it is stunned first. Strict Muslims will not eat any meat that has been stunned prior to slaughter, no matter the animal is killed or how many prayers are said over its dying body.
I wrote the New Zealand meat board who confirmed that more than 90% of New Zealand exported to the UK has been killed by the halal method.
I have written to my MP.
I wrote the New Zealand meat board who confirmed that more than 90% of New Zealand exported to the UK has been killed by the halal method.
I have written to my MP.
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Going vegetarian is not the answer.
In this country the law about the slaughter of animals is very strict and is only relaxed to allow Halal for the consumption of Muslims only. A similar exception is for Kosher slaughters for the Jewish community.
It is illegal to slaughter in the Halal way for mass consumption regardless of religious beliefs.
My MP is very supportive and is raising the matter in Parliament.
In this country the law about the slaughter of animals is very strict and is only relaxed to allow Halal for the consumption of Muslims only. A similar exception is for Kosher slaughters for the Jewish community.
It is illegal to slaughter in the Halal way for mass consumption regardless of religious beliefs.
My MP is very supportive and is raising the matter in Parliament.
Thank you hc, maybe if more people took the trouble to see exacty what halal/kosher slaughter is, they may realise how cruel it is. I have now joined a facebook group which goes into much detail of this slaughter and has certainly educated me. It seems DEFRA, RSPCA, BVA and many other animal welfare groups oppose this slaughter, does that not tell people how wrong this slaughter is in 21st Century Britian.
FAWC -
It is important to note that the exemption from stunning for religious slaughter is based upon the principal that “unnecessary suffering” should not be caused. The recognition that “very significant pain and distress” is “likely” to be caused by religious slaughter calls into question the entire legal basis of the existing exemption and the government so far has failed to address it.
The up-to-date scientific evidence available and our own observations leave no doubt in our minds that religious slaughter, even when carried out under ideal conditions, must result in a degree of pain, suffering and distress which does not occur in the properly stunned animal.
Parliamentary Briefing SNSC 01314 Standard Note SN/SC/1314 -
The European Convention for the Protection of Animals for Slaughter 1979 allows for ritual slaughter. However, this slaughter must ensure that the animals are spared any avoidable pain or suffering.
FAWC -
It is important to note that the exemption from stunning for religious slaughter is based upon the principal that “unnecessary suffering” should not be caused. The recognition that “very significant pain and distress” is “likely” to be caused by religious slaughter calls into question the entire legal basis of the existing exemption and the government so far has failed to address it.
The up-to-date scientific evidence available and our own observations leave no doubt in our minds that religious slaughter, even when carried out under ideal conditions, must result in a degree of pain, suffering and distress which does not occur in the properly stunned animal.
Parliamentary Briefing SNSC 01314 Standard Note SN/SC/1314 -
The European Convention for the Protection of Animals for Slaughter 1979 allows for ritual slaughter. However, this slaughter must ensure that the animals are spared any avoidable pain or suffering.
I understand your concern but the argument for halal or kosher killing is that death is quick with a knife - if you were also to investigate non-religious slaughterhouses (as many have) I think we would all be dismayed at what goes on in many "ordinary" abbatoirs. Unless everyone turns vegetarian, some animals are bound to be caused distress (even at the smell of death in these places), it is a fact of life. My own butcher - local, small town - buys in halal chicken breasts, and it wasn't until I asked him about halal meat because some Muslim friends were coming that he even noticed the words "halal" on the side of his wholesale boxes.
I am sure that many of us are going to have to agree to differ on this one. I don't like any suffering in any animal, but humans kill for meat, from individuals in the jungle to us asking someone else to do it for us in abbatoirs. There is never going to be a nice way to do it.
It would be difficult to ban Halal meat any more than you can ban Kosher meat or stop people eating port scratchings - people are preparing food for their own communities, and before anyone starts, I know many indigenous white and black British converts to both faiths, so it's not all to do with the immigrant population.
I am sure that many of us are going to have to agree to differ on this one. I don't like any suffering in any animal, but humans kill for meat, from individuals in the jungle to us asking someone else to do it for us in abbatoirs. There is never going to be a nice way to do it.
It would be difficult to ban Halal meat any more than you can ban Kosher meat or stop people eating port scratchings - people are preparing food for their own communities, and before anyone starts, I know many indigenous white and black British converts to both faiths, so it's not all to do with the immigrant population.
I have no problem whatsoever with Muslims eating Halal, or Jews eating Kosher.
However, I want the right to choose whether to buy Halal or not, and unless the meat is clearly labelled then that choice is denied me.
If I want to buy Halal meat I know exactly where to buy it from, the Halal butchers on the High Street.
Of course the big supermarkets should supply Halal if there is a demand - but label it so I don't have to.
However, I want the right to choose whether to buy Halal or not, and unless the meat is clearly labelled then that choice is denied me.
If I want to buy Halal meat I know exactly where to buy it from, the Halal butchers on the High Street.
Of course the big supermarkets should supply Halal if there is a demand - but label it so I don't have to.
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Have you researched British abbatoirs and do you know that the workers are paid piece work...the more they kill the more money they make. It leads to standards slipping, animals not being stunned for long enough. There is a campaign ot introduce CCTV to all slaughterhouses and get rid of the piece work. I'm totally for it as numerous undercover filimg has exposed so much cruelty. Please see below.
http://www.animalaid....IGNS/slaughter/ALL///
http://www.animalaid....IGNS/slaughter/ALL///
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