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Steven Gerrard cowardly and aggogant
Steven Gerrard's trial for his bar room brawl has opened. Now I think he is a great player, but, if the evidence from the trial is to be believed, he is a cowardly fighter. He waited until one of his mates had elbowed the victim in the face before attacking him.
One of Mr Gerrard's friends, John Doran, who has admitted affray, pushed Mr McGee away but "could not resist following through with his right elbow into Mr McGee's face", said Mr Turner.
"We say at this stage Gerrard totally lost it.
"Almost immediately after the blow from John Doran, in fact within seconds, Steven Gerrard joined in the attack with a succession of well aimed uppercut punches delivered with the style and speed of a professional boxer rather than a professional footballer."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/ 8160783.stm
All his mates seem to have entered guilty pleas, but Gerrard has denied any guilt. It appears there is CCTV film of the incident.
Anyone know what is likely to be the sentence if he is found guilty?
One of Mr Gerrard's friends, John Doran, who has admitted affray, pushed Mr McGee away but "could not resist following through with his right elbow into Mr McGee's face", said Mr Turner.
"We say at this stage Gerrard totally lost it.
"Almost immediately after the blow from John Doran, in fact within seconds, Steven Gerrard joined in the attack with a succession of well aimed uppercut punches delivered with the style and speed of a professional boxer rather than a professional footballer."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/ 8160783.stm
All his mates seem to have entered guilty pleas, but Gerrard has denied any guilt. It appears there is CCTV film of the incident.
Anyone know what is likely to be the sentence if he is found guilty?
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I dont think Gromit is judging him zac, mereley quoting the facts and asking a question.
Dont know the answer Gromit but not much I suspect. If I had my way he would be banged up for a couple of months and loose his job like the rest of us would. Providing he is guilty of course.
Doubt it will happen though. No wonder some kids of today are like they are with role models like this.
Dont know the answer Gromit but not much I suspect. If I had my way he would be banged up for a couple of months and loose his job like the rest of us would. Providing he is guilty of course.
Doubt it will happen though. No wonder some kids of today are like they are with role models like this.
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Friom the Daily Mails report
The jury watched CCTV footage. Real time and slow motion footage was played of the footballer talking to Mr McGee at the bar for 23 seconds, then Doran elbowing him, and then Gerrard throwing punches.
The jury of seven women and five men heard that in a police interview Gerrard admitted punching Mr McGee.
In conclusion to the jury, Mr Turner said: 'If you consider Steven Gerrard was or even may have been acting in self defence you will acquit.
'But we say on this occasion Steven Gerrard's fists, not his feet, did the talking. This was never self defence in a hundred years.'
The jury watched CCTV footage. Real time and slow motion footage was played of the footballer talking to Mr McGee at the bar for 23 seconds, then Doran elbowing him, and then Gerrard throwing punches.
The jury of seven women and five men heard that in a police interview Gerrard admitted punching Mr McGee.
In conclusion to the jury, Mr Turner said: 'If you consider Steven Gerrard was or even may have been acting in self defence you will acquit.
'But we say on this occasion Steven Gerrard's fists, not his feet, did the talking. This was never self defence in a hundred years.'
A lot of it will depend on whether he has previous convictions. If not, perhaps a hefty fine but, If he has, and should they be for violence, there's every likelihood that a custodial sentence could be imposed.
This could perhaps be the reason why, unlike his co defendants, he has chosen to plead not guilty, i.e. he may have more to lose? Anyway, the fact that he's a famous footballer in itself would suggest that he indeed has far more to lose than the others.
This could perhaps be the reason why, unlike his co defendants, he has chosen to plead not guilty, i.e. he may have more to lose? Anyway, the fact that he's a famous footballer in itself would suggest that he indeed has far more to lose than the others.
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I beg to differ, the sentence, IF convicted, could well be a fine subject to what I pointed out in my last post.
The fact that he's a wealthy man is irrelevant in this instance. The fine would be commensurate with whatever the tariff is for the offence of affray, with which he has been charged, and it (the fine) would be decided by the Court.
I agree that the fine, if there is one, would undoubtedly seem laughable to most of us, but, and I've said it thousands of times, the Law is sometimes an ass.
I beg to differ, the sentence, IF convicted, could well be a fine subject to what I pointed out in my last post.
The fact that he's a wealthy man is irrelevant in this instance. The fine would be commensurate with whatever the tariff is for the offence of affray, with which he has been charged, and it (the fine) would be decided by the Court.
I agree that the fine, if there is one, would undoubtedly seem laughable to most of us, but, and I've said it thousands of times, the Law is sometimes an ass.
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