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The worst football decisiom ever?
UEFA's U-turn in letting off Eduardo for the most blatant bit of cheating is a blueprint for absolute disaster for football. I've read the rubbish in this morning's papers about how Eduardo now feels "vindicated" but the fact is that everybody that's seen it and isn't a one-eyed idiot KNOWS it was a dive, so far from being vindicated Mr Eduardo, you are now branded a liar as well as a cheat and you will still get booed everywhere you go for the rest of the season.
He got off because pathetic Arsenal proved he was "touched" which means that they have effectively changed the rules. A touch in the area, no matter how slight, is now a foul apparently.
It gives carte blanche to all the cheats out there to dive twice as much as they usually do, safe in the knowledge that nothing can be done about it and any yellow cards they may get can be overturned when they can prove there was miniscule contact.
The only good that can come out of this is if everybody falls over in Arsenal's penalty area at every little brush with a defender and demands a penalty. Mr Whinger and all those one-eyed Arsenal fans that I've been listening to on the radio all day can't say a thing about it.
And wouldn't it be a shame if Arsenal got knocked out of the champions league with a dive as blatant as Eduardo's - I'd love to hear the Whinger then.
He got off because pathetic Arsenal proved he was "touched" which means that they have effectively changed the rules. A touch in the area, no matter how slight, is now a foul apparently.
It gives carte blanche to all the cheats out there to dive twice as much as they usually do, safe in the knowledge that nothing can be done about it and any yellow cards they may get can be overturned when they can prove there was miniscule contact.
The only good that can come out of this is if everybody falls over in Arsenal's penalty area at every little brush with a defender and demands a penalty. Mr Whinger and all those one-eyed Arsenal fans that I've been listening to on the radio all day can't say a thing about it.
And wouldn't it be a shame if Arsenal got knocked out of the champions league with a dive as blatant as Eduardo's - I'd love to hear the Whinger then.
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The original decision to charge Eduardo, went against the rule of supporting the referee, UEFA have always backed referees , the referee thought it was a penalty - thats what matters !
There only has to be intent to foul - remember Styles / Gerrard - for a penalty or free kick to be awarded.
If they upheld the original decision, why stop at divers, why not charge players taking a throw in from the wrong place, goalkeepers taking goalkicks from the opposite side of the goal to waste time , players feigning injury, etc ?
There only has to be intent to foul - remember Styles / Gerrard - for a penalty or free kick to be awarded.
If they upheld the original decision, why stop at divers, why not charge players taking a throw in from the wrong place, goalkeepers taking goalkicks from the opposite side of the goal to waste time , players feigning injury, etc ?
Because diving is a doubly evil act of cheating that penalises the innocent by getting them sent off as well as rewarding the cheat. Anyway, why do people always come out with the "where will it stop" line followed by a load of ridiculous examples. Its as common and as boring as the "but we wouldn't have anything to talk about down the pub" line.
"The referee thought it was a penalty, that's what matters" No, the referee was DECIEVED into thinking it was a penalty, THAT'S what matters. The referee wasn't man enough to admit he was wrong and laughably said it was a penalty even after he'd seen the replay.
I find it unbelievable that UEFA collude in the deception of their own officials in this way. They, and FIFA, reckon they want to spread the football gospel, yet if you ask anybody who doesn't like football what their problem with it is, they almost always say all the diving and feigning injury.
I find it unbelievable that UEFA collude in the deception of their own officials in this way. They, and FIFA, reckon they want to spread the football gospel, yet if you ask anybody who doesn't like football what their problem with it is, they almost always say all the diving and feigning injury.
football is a game of dishounour, not sure why you find this unusual. 9/10 times the refs are correct, ok he may have been wrong this time. Diving/faking injury is the stock in trade of most footballers. Do you protest so much when a wrong decision is in your favour?
Worst decision ever? No where near it mate.
Worst decision ever? No where near it mate.
Arsenal have been at it for years and as soon as they are in the dock they throw their toys out of the pram.
The same as their fans, been giving Adebayor stick for the last year and again on Saturday, he scores and more or less sticks two fingers up at them and they go mad...bunch of tossers, shame they don`t make as much noise at the Emirates, 60,000 and the away fans make more noise
The same as their fans, been giving Adebayor stick for the last year and again on Saturday, he scores and more or less sticks two fingers up at them and they go mad...bunch of tossers, shame they don`t make as much noise at the Emirates, 60,000 and the away fans make more noise
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R1 Geezer - "football is a game of dishonour" . . . . Yes, I know, but I would prefer it otherwise and mistakenly thought that UEFA had taken the first steps in that direction with their ban on Eduardo. By reversing it, we are now worse off than before.
PS Wenger's just said that if you ask 100 people about Adebayore's stamp on Van Persie, 99 would condemn it and the other would be Mark Hughes . . . . hypocrite. Ask 100 people whether Eduardo dived or not, 99 say he did and the other one's Arsene Wenger. Incredibly one-eyed for such an obviously intelligent bloke.
What a shame for football that both managers didn't just say "Yes well, these things happen in the game, I don't condone it, we'll have a word with him" instead of flouncing off to some court with "forensic evidence" that Eduardo was "touched".
So what if he was, contact does NOT constitiute a foul - how about Pires's notorious dive for a penalty against Pompey a few years back. - there was contact there all right, initiated by Pires as he went past a static defender, he actually cahnged direction to catch his foot against the defender's leg - the correct decision would have been a foul on the defender, but I have never seen a ref spot that which is hardly surprising, and just goes to show that we should have retrospective suspensions after the game. If they did that, diving would cease to be risk-free, and it would therefore die out in a couple of months.
But they won't, so we are stuck with it and cheats will prosper, hence me still thinking it is the worst decision I've ever come across in football.
PS Wenger's just said that if you ask 100 people about Adebayore's stamp on Van Persie, 99 would condemn it and the other would be Mark Hughes . . . . hypocrite. Ask 100 people whether Eduardo dived or not, 99 say he did and the other one's Arsene Wenger. Incredibly one-eyed for such an obviously intelligent bloke.
What a shame for football that both managers didn't just say "Yes well, these things happen in the game, I don't condone it, we'll have a word with him" instead of flouncing off to some court with "forensic evidence" that Eduardo was "touched".
So what if he was, contact does NOT constitiute a foul - how about Pires's notorious dive for a penalty against Pompey a few years back. - there was contact there all right, initiated by Pires as he went past a static defender, he actually cahnged direction to catch his foot against the defender's leg - the correct decision would have been a foul on the defender, but I have never seen a ref spot that which is hardly surprising, and just goes to show that we should have retrospective suspensions after the game. If they did that, diving would cease to be risk-free, and it would therefore die out in a couple of months.
But they won't, so we are stuck with it and cheats will prosper, hence me still thinking it is the worst decision I've ever come across in football.
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In answer to the "where would it end" brigade - they do random drugs tests don't they? They don't test everybody, but enough to make the would-be drug cheat think twice about it and the same should apply here if they actually want this out of the game. Any really blatant dives like Eduardo's get a suspension, just so these people know they just might not get away with it.
Someone wants to know what has changed?
Well, I'd have thought it was obvious, but we all now know that nothing will ever be done about a diver if he succeeds in fooling the officials, which is ridiculous, because that is laughably easy to do, so diving will get worse because it is incredibly profitable and 99% risk free to dive and get a penalty, and hopefully an innocent opponent sent off.
The rules have been changed as any touch is now a foul.
The biggest change is the U-turn though, they took a massive step in the right direction by charging Eduardo with deceiving the referee, and then bottled it and left the situation in a worse state than it wa before.
Well, I'd have thought it was obvious, but we all now know that nothing will ever be done about a diver if he succeeds in fooling the officials, which is ridiculous, because that is laughably easy to do, so diving will get worse because it is incredibly profitable and 99% risk free to dive and get a penalty, and hopefully an innocent opponent sent off.
The rules have been changed as any touch is now a foul.
The biggest change is the U-turn though, they took a massive step in the right direction by charging Eduardo with deceiving the referee, and then bottled it and left the situation in a worse state than it wa before.
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