Wales Leading The Way Again !

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-34219546

Come on England...catch up !

[Jackdaw33]

If you had read the article properly you would have seen that the ban comes into force in England on the same day.

[mikey4444]

Thanks Jack...I missed that and I am indebted to your eagle eye !

[Baldric]

F Y I Mikey


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-31310685

[Jackdaw33]

What about a 17 year old driving alone and smoking?

[Svejk]

Come on Mikey...catch up!

[-Talbot-]

O' dear...


I thought it was Scotland that led the way?

[Baldric]

///It will not apply to anyone driving alone or driving in a convertible car with the top down.///

[Togo]

I had that ban in force 31 years ago when my daughter was a baby. She is now a consultant GP.

[1ozzy]

//If you had read the article properly// Jack.

//The law does not apply to e-cigarettes or when an under-18-year old is the only person in the car.//

[mikey4444]

This new legislation isn't perfect but its got to be a good start.

I see people smoking in cars with their kids all the time ! But they mostly appear to the same sort of people, the ones who are now left smoking, when most people have quit. These people are going to be the hardest to persuade, if they still think its OK to smoke in small confined spaces with their kids.

Common sense obviously is not one of their "specialist subjects" !

[-Talbot-]

I see people smoking in cars with their kids all the time ! But they mostly appear to the same sort of people, the ones who are now left smoking, when most people have quit


So that is every smoker then?

[mikey4444]

No, only the ones stupid enough to continue to smoke with kids in their cars.

[steg]

"if they still think its OK to smoke in small confined spaces with their kids. "
I don't mind confined spaces ,but my kid has to smoke outside

[ToraToraTora]

it's most disturbing that this legislation is necessary.

[Canary42]

Jackdaw with an eagle eye - now there's novel.

[New Judge]

Yes it is a wonder why the legislation is necessary. But when you look around it comes as no surprise. People feed all sorts of junk to their children on a regular basis causing similar long term harm.

It's already an offence to smoke in company vehicles. How many people pay attention to that? Unfortunately it will be yet another law that descends into disrepute (rather like that of using a mobile phone whilst driving). Like that offence a very small proportion of those guilty of it will be caught. Those that are will not have £50 on the them to pay the "on the spot" fine (a misnomer if ever there was one). Bailiffs will be instructed to exeecute a distress warrant (by which time the sum due will have risen to several hundred).

[anotheoldgit]

Perhaps the Welsh need a little nudge before it actually sinks in, those in England are sharp enough to already know.

And why do they have to go to the trouble to put the reminder in two languages, are there some who cannot actually read and speak English?

[mikey4444]

AOG...you are on dodgy ground there ! Its the way of the the world here in Wales....bilingual everything !

[DTCwordfan]

Wait until the rugby and then you won't be laughing, mikey......

[New Judge]

It’s not really true that in Wales everything is bilingual, Mikey.

In some areas less than 10% of people speak any Welsh and few places have more than 50% Welsh speaking. Overall not more than around half a million people in Wales – less than one in five - speak Welsh. It is not easy to find out how many people speak Welsh and nothing else but I suspect they are few and far between. Huge sums are expended on bilingual signage and documentation. Recently public cash has been spent “encouraging” people to speak language to ensure it does not die. Nonetheless between the 2001 and 2011 censuses the numbers speaking the language actually declined.

In these straitened times it is surely a complete waste of money supporting to such a large degree a language that so few people speak. If they want to speak a foreign language then that’s fine but they should not expect large sums of taxpayers’ dosh to be shelled out supporting a language just “so that it does not die”. It simply cannot be justified.