A Chance For Motorists To Have Their Say.

[Canary42]

From time to time we get threads on Ab from motorists complaining about unfair priority given to slower more vulnerable road users.

The DoT's Consultation period in respect of Highway Code amendments governing the behaviour of, and consideration to be given to, cyclists, pedestrians, horse riders etc. STARTS TODAY.

So here's your chance to make your views heard where it matters.

Note: The proposed HC still maintains the illegality of cyclists crossing against a red light.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/904038/consultation-on-a-review-of-the-highway-code.pdf#page=1

I have already provided my response - why not give it a go (WARNING: It will take more than a few minutes to thoroughly read and respond)

[woofgang]

done thanks

[Buenchico]

Let's hope that the new Highway Code includes the use of so-called 'Dutch-style' roundabouts. There's already one in Cambridge and, hopefully, there will soon be thousands more across the country:
https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/schema_org/public/roundaboutdrawing-queen-ediths-way.jpg

[douglas9401]

Chortle.

[Sam1960]

Dutch style roundabouts I think I could get quite used to Chris, but Swindons "magic roundabout" !! No thanks ...

[Mamyalynne]

Then there's Cyclops in Manchester.

[Sam1960]

That's up there with Swindon's Mamya

[jno]

we have nice LGBT lights in London, but only for pedestrians, I don't know what gay cyclists have to do

https://tinyurl.com/y34pzsq8

[charleythemonkey]

hmmm ....let's see how many lycra addicted cyclists can read

[ladybirder]

I got in a right mess on that Swindon one Sam. Nightmare.

[Sam1960]

My link doesn't do it justice ladybirder, unless you can view it on "full screen" Don't envy you using it. It looks like you said "A Nightmare"

[ladybirder]

It was a nightmare. I remember I actually had to stop in the middle of it and walk to the nearest car and ask them. When I apologised the driver said don't worry about it we get this all the time. I'd never been before and have never been since. Nor will I. That is the first time in 40 odd years of driving anything like that has happened to me.

[Buenchico]

Let's forget Dutch-style roundabouts and have French-style ones instead ;-)

[10ClarionSt]

The government, local authorities and other official bodies couldn't care less about the motorist. They just want to slow you down. Proof of this is the lowering of speed limits everywhere in the last few years.
Speed bumps; road narrowing; bus lanes; allowed
on-street parking; increased numbers of traffic lights; lane restrictions; speed cameras; smart motorways, all meant to slow down the traffic.
And they'll say it's all done in the interests of safety, and what argument is there against that?
Anyway, I haven't read the highway code since I passed my driving test back in the stone age. When there was REAL pedal power! Yabba dabba doooooo!

[10ClarionSt]

Chris, is that the one in Paris? I believe that no insurance company will cover you if you have an accident on that roundabout. Don't know if it still applies.

[10ClarionSt]

I haven't seen that Cyclops junction but it's on the opposite side of the City to where I live. But just why anyone wants to travel on two wheels in this country is beyond me. The roads are fully of nutters. Right, I'm just going to Darlington for some exploding trousers.

[mushroom25]

// is that the one in Paris? I believe that no insurance company will cover you if you have an accident on that roundabout. //

stories about insurance cover not applying at the Arc de Triomphe are a myth. no insurance policy issued in Europe has any such exclusion listed - if you think about it (even though the junction is clearly more dangerous than most) insurance works on the basis of pooled risk, so it would be highly unusual, the thin end of the wedge, if insurers started singling out even one dangerous junction and excluding cover.

there is a quirk though - owing to the complexity of the road system at that point (ten lanes and 12 exits), insurers have an agreement to settle all claims on a knock-for-knock basis. this is to avoid the protracted disputes and legal challenges, which would arise when trying to determine who was at fault for the accident.

[douglas9401]

The 'consultation period' should come with the warning that anything said that disagrees with the already laid down thoughts of the great and the good, y'know, like the ones who have ruined towns and cities up and down the land, will be ignored.

I wanted elevated cycleways, keep the nuisance separated, never happened. "50 feet is too high and too difficult" they said.
Typical!

[DTCwordfan]

if cyclists were forced to use designated lanes or tracks, that would be a bloody good start - and also they should be clearly fined for contraventions of the Code, if caught on camera.....and when it comes to cycling on pedestrian pavements, well.....

[Bazile]

Swindon magic Roundabout

Nothing that a simple set of traffic lights at the junctions couldn't fix

[woofgang]

Traffic lights on roundabouts are what is being used here.(South England). Its lovely. fair shares of entrance and exit time for all, increased safety because speed is slowed and no one rushes to get on or off, the roundabout, no struggling to change lanes or to squeeze through gaps. gasp! its even safer for cyclists!