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Listener 4856 If You Say So By Tuds

emcee | 01:34 Sat 22nd Feb 2025 | Crosswords

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I thought the clues were tricky in places (in fact, I still have 31ac and 37dn to understand thoroughly).

But what a pointless, strange endgame. The title, I guess, says it all.

Thanks, Tuds.

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OK, I've sorted the two out now. 31ac is very clever but unusual. 37dn is a tad unfair as one defn isn't in Chambers. I thought 30dn was also straddling the boundary of fairness.

Perhaps, on reflection, I was somewhat harsh over the endgame. It is a .a.a.o. that I encounter often in my work so its novelty value has been lost through the passage of time!

Cruncher

Strange ending. Elsewhere 30dn is being celebrated as a clue without compare but confess I have yet to parse it.

HawkCrossword

I enjoyed bits of this one. Missing bars and numbers can make for a tricky gridfill, but the across clues were very accessible at the start, which allowed all the bars to be placed. Some tricky clues in the mix, too. I get 30D, which is clever, but it's not an area of expertise, and you can't confirm it in Chambers.

The bit I didn't like was the expectation that we would be able to spot the changes from the three extra words. It took me far longer than the grid-fill, and by then I'd lost interest in the final grid. But maybe I'll appreciate it more tomorrow. Thanks, Tuds.

emcee

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I think to make 30dn fair there needs to be a mention of 'key'.

Keepatit

30d is a strange one. I haven’t seen it before, and it requires digging beyond Chambers, I believe. It has echoes of the very occasional clue referring to voiced and unvoiced consonants, which is similarly unsupported. I’m not prepared to say it’s unfair just because it’s outside my sphere of knowledge, but it certainly threw me. Emcee is quite right that the inclusion of key would have done the trick.

Endings like this are amusing the first time, ho hum the second, and enough already the third, I'm afraid.

Keepatit

BTW I don't have a problem with 37d. The first definition is in the BRB under the double-letter form, and the second is well covered by the question mark

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