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Many Thanks Hans and I did understand your typo, I'm not that thick..."really?" grins a wicked Lie-in King, "I thought it was your natural state!" he says as he glides along his merry way - anyway, back to the prob. Yes, I will look into togo's link again...done so once already, but it isn't written in plain English or - to me - understandable non-techno English...still, I'll keep on it and Thank You All - I'll even have a look at Slimjet, if Chris reckons it, then say no more!