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i crashed and burned, hence not getting back before, so apologies, i have by some minor miracle, though i don't usually go that route, have got back the top tool bar, so thanks for all the help, this was, is a ruddy nightmare, all for trying to load pictures from phone to computer. For the sake of sanity i have deleted all data to do with that for the time being. However for no reason still have the Ask.com on IE8, which i rarely use, as i preferred Firefox. I am now wary of loading any new data in case it screws up again.
my dearest wish would be to lob this machine in the Thames...