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Windoes 10 Upgrade - Yes Or No, That Is The Question?
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Well since Microsoft has been bombarding me with reminders to upgrade to Windows 10 I am actually considering it.
But naturally I am always wary of anything to do with Micro-bloody-soft, probably having wasted a quarter of my life with crap Microsoft products which are always a problem,so I am dreading it really.
XP was reasonable but then I got 8.1 and the damn thing was nothing but hassle from the start. Those much hyped Tiles were a load of crap and never worked at all. Only thing I ever got was a blank screen when clicking on them.
Yep, usual Microsoft rubbish, can't even get the basics right. After days trying to fix the damn things I gave up in the end.
At least managed to get the damn thing working reasonably well by installing an add-on program, "Start Menu 8" which emulates previous Windows versions Start Menu.
The worry now is what will happen if I install Windows 10 over the flawed Windows 8.1.
Is it likely to screw up requiring a further quarter of my life to sort the bloody thing out.
Also would it be advisable to remove the add on start program before installing 10?
But naturally I am always wary of anything to do with Micro-bloody-soft, probably having wasted a quarter of my life with crap Microsoft products which are always a problem,so I am dreading it really.
XP was reasonable but then I got 8.1 and the damn thing was nothing but hassle from the start. Those much hyped Tiles were a load of crap and never worked at all. Only thing I ever got was a blank screen when clicking on them.
Yep, usual Microsoft rubbish, can't even get the basics right. After days trying to fix the damn things I gave up in the end.
At least managed to get the damn thing working reasonably well by installing an add-on program, "Start Menu 8" which emulates previous Windows versions Start Menu.
The worry now is what will happen if I install Windows 10 over the flawed Windows 8.1.
Is it likely to screw up requiring a further quarter of my life to sort the bloody thing out.
Also would it be advisable to remove the add on start program before installing 10?
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With all the problems which lots of folk are experiencing with Windows 10, I am surprised that some ABers are quite happy with their 'up-date'. There is still plenty of time before Microsoft ceases availing people of a free download. Consequently I am quite content to wait a further four or five months before making any final decision on changing from Windows...
13:48 Sun 10th Jan 2016
My grandson upgraded me to Windows 10 on Christmas Day and I haven't had any problems so far. I don't do anything too complicated but I can still do email, Google, Facebook, banking, Answerbank, so perhaps I've been lucky? He said it would be OK for me to do, so I took his advice, he's 26 so knows a lot more than me!
It is more in Microsoft's interest to get everyone up to Windows 10, not ours.
The more people who move to Windows 10 the less people who run older releases of Windows and the less time they have to spend fixing the older releases.
The "problem" with Windows is that once you have bought it Microsoft get no more money (for example those who bought Windows XP and are still on it have spent no more money with Microsoft).
So Microsoft want to move to a subscription service with Windows, rather like they have with Office 365 (which you have to pay for each year to continue using it).
So once we have all been battered to move to Windows 10 Microsoft will probably announce that from now on you have to pay £30 a year (or some figure) to carry on using it. That way they get a regular revenue stream.
I am registered as a Microsoft Partner (people who work WITH Microsoft to sell their products) and I have already had emails from them encouraging me to get all my "customers" to Windows 10 so they can introduce the subscription system.
Those of us who stay on Windows 7 will never have to join this subscription system so can carry on using Windows 7 for free as long as we want to, unlike those that move to Windows 10.
Article here about subscription for windows 10.
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The more people who move to Windows 10 the less people who run older releases of Windows and the less time they have to spend fixing the older releases.
The "problem" with Windows is that once you have bought it Microsoft get no more money (for example those who bought Windows XP and are still on it have spent no more money with Microsoft).
So Microsoft want to move to a subscription service with Windows, rather like they have with Office 365 (which you have to pay for each year to continue using it).
So once we have all been battered to move to Windows 10 Microsoft will probably announce that from now on you have to pay £30 a year (or some figure) to carry on using it. That way they get a regular revenue stream.
I am registered as a Microsoft Partner (people who work WITH Microsoft to sell their products) and I have already had emails from them encouraging me to get all my "customers" to Windows 10 so they can introduce the subscription system.
Those of us who stay on Windows 7 will never have to join this subscription system so can carry on using Windows 7 for free as long as we want to, unlike those that move to Windows 10.
Article here about subscription for windows 10.
http://
The technical magazines seem to suggest that the amount of memory your computer has is important. Windows 10 theoretically runs with 2GB but the media seem to be suggesting that (unless you're prepared to put up with it running very slowly) you really need at least 4Gb.
Given that many laptops which perfectly-functional under Windows 7 or 8 only have 1Gb of memory, trying to install Windows 10 onto such a machine would seem to be a recipe for disaster.
My desktop computer has 2Gb of memory. Further, I've got software installed running under 'Compatibility Mode' that was designed for Windows XP. (Such as Photoshop 6, Microsoft Publisher and QuarkXpress 4). I've also got an aged (but excellent) film scanner and a graphics tablet. I reckon that the chances of all that lot working under Windows 10 are extremely low, so I'm sticking with Windows 7!
Given that many laptops which perfectly-functional under Windows 7 or 8 only have 1Gb of memory, trying to install Windows 10 onto such a machine would seem to be a recipe for disaster.
My desktop computer has 2Gb of memory. Further, I've got software installed running under 'Compatibility Mode' that was designed for Windows XP. (Such as Photoshop 6, Microsoft Publisher and QuarkXpress 4). I've also got an aged (but excellent) film scanner and a graphics tablet. I reckon that the chances of all that lot working under Windows 10 are extremely low, so I'm sticking with Windows 7!
Microsoft has emphatically stated there will be NO subsription to Windows 10.
I've used it since it was in beta and I have no problems at all with it on my powerful desktop, my older laptop and my very basic netbook that is several years old and has 2GB RAM.
Remove the add on start program from 8.1 before installing W10
I like it very much and so far it just works - no problems connecting to wifi; my old wireless printer works as do all my peripherals. Boot up time is very quick and I find it straightforward and easy to use.
I've used it since it was in beta and I have no problems at all with it on my powerful desktop, my older laptop and my very basic netbook that is several years old and has 2GB RAM.
Remove the add on start program from 8.1 before installing W10
I like it very much and so far it just works - no problems connecting to wifi; my old wireless printer works as do all my peripherals. Boot up time is very quick and I find it straightforward and easy to use.
PS:
Microsoft seem to be following Google's model of collecting a great deal of data in order (if you actually believe them) to 'optimise users' experience':
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Microsoft seem to be following Google's model of collecting a great deal of data in order (if you actually believe them) to 'optimise users' experience':
http://
>>> Microsoft has emphatically stated there will be NO subsription to Windows 10
True but they still seem determined to get additional payment for things which used to be free under earlier versions of Windows. For example, they've removed Windows Media Player and want to charge for a replacement product with the same facilities that WMP had. (OK, I know that only an idiot used WMP anyway, as both VLC and GOM are infinitely better but it still illustrates my point).
True but they still seem determined to get additional payment for things which used to be free under earlier versions of Windows. For example, they've removed Windows Media Player and want to charge for a replacement product with the same facilities that WMP had. (OK, I know that only an idiot used WMP anyway, as both VLC and GOM are infinitely better but it still illustrates my point).
I upgraded my fairly modern laptop which had been running 8.1
My big issue with upgrading was email as I was using the old Mail program from the days of Vista and I did not want to try and keep that going. Ut I realised that Live Mail was a fair replacement and it automatically loaded my old messages.
It seems to have ironed out a couple of hardware issues
Against that, I had to reinstall the printer start but that was trivial
The most irritating thing for me was that it tries to get you to chose the 'apps' it wants you to use to open certain file types - so for example I had to reassociate PDFs with my favourite PDF reader.
And yes do turn off all the snooping stuff it prompts you for, as well as the irritating Cortana nonsense
Difficult to generalise of course
No two people have the same config
My big issue with upgrading was email as I was using the old Mail program from the days of Vista and I did not want to try and keep that going. Ut I realised that Live Mail was a fair replacement and it automatically loaded my old messages.
It seems to have ironed out a couple of hardware issues
Against that, I had to reinstall the printer start but that was trivial
The most irritating thing for me was that it tries to get you to chose the 'apps' it wants you to use to open certain file types - so for example I had to reassociate PDFs with my favourite PDF reader.
And yes do turn off all the snooping stuff it prompts you for, as well as the irritating Cortana nonsense
Difficult to generalise of course
No two people have the same config
Not overly keen on it. Set the PC to be US rather than UK as it was on the version it was replacing. Got those silly tiles in the start menu. Things not so obvious as before. For example it took me quite a while to find the control panel, forgotten how I got there now. Wants to monitor you and grab data about you. Refuses to have a decent update policy. But if you want extended support you probably need to go for it at the last minute. (Or give up and find an alternative OS from a non-control-freak company that doesn't try to prevent you from managing your PC the way you want to and spying on you.)
hc - so how come I have a brand-new computer and have aall these problems?
Is it the machine itself - a 'Friday afternoon job? All I want is a simply functioning machine which types the letters I hit. Something onwhich to searchthe Weband buy things, blue , revolving circles do not appear, I can write documents, send andreceive letters and documents. Only my love for you keeps me going.This has taken 15 mins. totype. Ready to give upon technology.
Is it the machine itself - a 'Friday afternoon job? All I want is a simply functioning machine which types the letters I hit. Something onwhich to searchthe Weband buy things, blue , revolving circles do not appear, I can write documents, send andreceive letters and documents. Only my love for you keeps me going.This has taken 15 mins. totype. Ready to give upon technology.
With all the problems which lots of folk are experiencing with Windows 10, I am surprised that some ABers are quite happy with their 'up-date'.
There is still plenty of time before Microsoft ceases availing people of a free download. Consequently I am quite content to wait a further four or five months before making any final decision on changing from Windows 7.
Hans.
There is still plenty of time before Microsoft ceases availing people of a free download. Consequently I am quite content to wait a further four or five months before making any final decision on changing from Windows 7.
Hans.
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