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Major Windows 10 Update On Its Way

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Guilbert53 | 16:05 Thu 19th Oct 2017 | Technology
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A major update to Windows 10 has been released this week.

It is called the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update.

I believe this is a complete replacement of Windows.

I started to install it on a fairly powerful PC, and I have 150mbps Virgin cable Broadband, and so far it has been running for well over an hour and is still at the stage of "Preparing to install updates" (at 90%)

So if you do have Windows 10 then watch out for this update and be prepared to do very little on your PC for a while (I know it says you can carry on working while it is installing but I prefer to leave the PC alone till it has finished)

If you have a few hours when you are not going to use your PC then maybe go in to the "Check for Updates" option in Settings and try to "kick off" the update.
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I am sticking with Windows 7 for as long as I can. OH has Windows 10, and he always seems to be having trouble.
I'm on Windows 7 Pro, which seems to function okay and may yet outlast me.
You have microsofts support until 14/01/2014 .. then it will be time think about win 10.
Thank you for that, Lie-in King.

In that case, I shall stay as I am, for now.
Noooo, please No. I haven't got used to the original yet. STOP UPDATING THINGS!
On serious reflection - i'LL IGNORE IT!
Microsoft have pledged "support" for previous versions of their operating systems until 2020 or whatever. Question is ............ do you trust them not to change their minds for strategic or economic reasons?
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>>>I’ll leave it for now I have updates turned completely off.

I though you could not turn off updates in Windows 10.

(I know there some hacks you can do, but for the "general" user I don't think you can turn it off)
There is software that allows you to turn updates on or off
You should be done by now I would think Guilbert. Tip if you are running the unmentionable you may need to just check your settings on it.
"Do we to do it,...."

With W10 you have no choice, Mikey. (Well, I believe you can supress updates but it involves a bit of advanced coding). Mrs NJ has a notebook with only 30gb of disc space (she uses it simply for e-mails and a bit of surfing). Fortunately she cannot receive updates as she has insufficient disc space. This still creates aggro as she is urged to "free up" disc space (i.e. ditch the stuff she wants in order to accommodate stuff she neither wants nor needs).

Quite frankly Microsoft get away with murder with their poxy Windows operating systems. Here we see an "update" (which usually means a product with some of the earlier faults ironed out) which takes an hour or more to achieve. The notoriety can me measured when you read this sort of thing:

"But I would wait for 10.0.2, when any bugs have been mended. Probably in a week or two."

So, an "update" (which I would expect to be better than the version it replaces) is launched - forcibly - on customers and it is already expected to contain faults. Recent Windows operating systems are a shambles which have to be continually "updated" (for which read "fixed") because they are sold with faults. These "updates" are pushed onto the public under the guise of "enhanced security".

I still run W8. I tried the free upgrade to W10 but it failed miserably and after being without my machine for a day and a half I gave up. Fortunately I can decline updates and haven't installed one for about 18 months. I have had no security issues. My next machine will almost certainly be a Mac.
Nobody is forced to use Windows! Other options are available, notably the Ubuntu distro of Linux which is completely free, requires a fraction of the hardware resources that Windows 10 does and supports oodles of free software which will accommodate the requirements of virtually every computer user other than specialists who require specialist software.
Anyone not PC savvy has no real choice. Many users have difficulty coping with Windows let alone anything else.
I'm liking the update. Not much difference - just new features that you can choose to use or ignore.
"Many users have difficulty coping with Windows"

And whose fault is that? Certainly not Microsoft's!
It's no one's fault although the creators/suppliers are in the front line.
It's an explanation of why users do have to go with the dominant OS in the hope someone can help.
That's akin to saying that it's the car manufacturers' fault that you don't know how to drive!
"...just new features that you can choose to use or ignore."

To add to the multitude of features that most users choose to ignore (mainly because they don't know they exist). I reckon most Windows users use no more than 5% of the facilities provided. Microsoft would do better to produce a basic Windows (which they could maintain without constant "upgrades") for people who simply want to turn on their machine and use it. They could produce a premium product with all the bells and whistles for those who want to endure constant fault-fixing. It would be interesting to see which version sold the most copies.
"I reckon most Windows users use no more than 5% of the facilities provided"

It's actually known in the industry as the 80/20 rule, i.e. around about 80% of the user base of any piece of software (operating system or application) use only about 20% of its functionality, the other 20% of users having no need for the remaining 80%. Millions of people use Excel every day to track things like their bank accounts. Accountants also use it to create balance sheets for company audits, all of that good stuff. Little more than rows and columns of figures with the most basic of functions is required for this. About 80% of Excel users will have probably never heard of Poisson confidence intervals, yet there they are.

http://www.kanbancoding.com/2013/08/27/the-8020-rule-as-applied-to-software-development/

BTW, I didn't Google that... ;-)
"Many users have difficulty coping with Windows"

“That's akin to saying that it's the car manufacturers' fault that you don't know how to drive!”

No it’s not. It’s like saying it’s the car manufacturers’ fault because the car keeps breaking down and you have no diagnostic tools or spanners to fix it. The car has to be constantly taken to a mechanic for it to be “updated” in order to keep it going.

Users should not have to have an in-depth knowledge of Windows in order to be able to fix it every time it falls over. If you had a washing machine that constantly froze up mid-wash meaning you had to turn the thing off and on and re-do your laundry because its operating system was not fit for purpose you’d send it back. Computer manufacturers should be responsible for ensuring their products have a properly working operating system that does not need constant attention. They are not so they don’t care how bad Windows is as they still sell their wares.

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