These Are The Rissoles That Now Rule Our Lives.....

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-54431900
How thick do you have to be to maintain Jobsworthery in these circumstances? See what I mean? These ejjits are absolutely love the power they have been given. I think the bloke was remarkably restrained, I'd have decked the plonker.

[woofgang]

actually they don't "rule our lives" one employee made a mistake, yes a hurtful one, but he was in the wrong and I trust he now knows it.

[ToraToraTora]

he's a brainless idiot that should not be allowed anywhere near the public. If the moron can''t see not to do what he did then he should not be in the job.

[Zacs-Master]

Me too. What a twonk. I believe the Crem are 'reviewing their policy and lessons have been learned'

[iluvmargie]

He totally over-reacted, the silly man. I would have decked him too!
Well, perhaps not, but I would have told him in no uncertain terms to back off.

[Mamyalynne]

The very worst time for someone to get over officious,that poor family.

[ToraToraTora]

the overall point is though that these morons have been given power, up and down the country this sort of Covidiocy is happening.

[Sunk]

You are missing the point. The crematorium attendant didn’t make the rules, he is just there to make sure they are adhered to. He did his job correctly.

If you want to blame someone, blame the people who made the social distancing and bubble rules and did not make crematoria an exemption to them.

[Zacs-Master]

That's a fair point ^^^^

[iluvmargie]

I'm sorry, but he still over-reacted. You have to use common sense as well and he simply didn't.

[Sunk]

// Social distancing for mourners
Social distancing measures reduce the transmission of COVID-19 and include:

- ensuring at least 2 metres (3 steps) away from others

- following the guidance on hand hygiene and preventing the spread of infection:

- face coverings must be worn by law in indoor places of worship, crematoria and burial ground chapels unless exempt for health, disability or other reasons.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-guidance-for-managing-a-funeral-during-the-coronavirus-pandemic/covid-19-guidance-for-managing-a-funeral-during-the-coronavirus-pandemic

Vent your anger at Mr Hancock.

[ToraToraTora]

sunk: "You are missing the point. The crematorium attendant didn’t make the rules, he is just there to make sure they are adhered to. He did his job correctly." - Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. Yes there are rules but you have to use a bit of common. There can be no justice when rules are absolute.

[Zacs-Master]

'Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools'

I think the outcome of the second world war (and arguable any conflict) would be different if we all believed that, Tora.

[Peter Pedant]

wow is this the same TTT pure scientist
who was whining about me including Lagrange in the list of Nobel prise winner

anyway reader - this is about the three chairs at a funeral which was interrupted by a clerk telling two mourners to stop consoling the widow

and it seems quite clear that the council had made it clear he should do so

what really surprised me - - was that they had obviously got the video under a data protection request....

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // sunk: "You are missing the point. The crematorium attendant didn’t make the rules, he is just there to make sure they are adhered to. He did his job correctly." - Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. Yes there are rules but you have to use a bit of common. There can be no justice when rules are absolute. //

I completely understand that in this emotional situation, you, and others, feel that 'common sense' should have been applied.

The reality is, as others have advised, rules are made for the safety of everyone, and the attendant will have been instructed to enforce them.

Put yourself in his position - if he had 'relaxed' the rules and the contact information brought back the fact that people attending that funeral had been infected, he would have been receiving similar diatribes on here for not enforcing the rules.

I believe, as others have said, it is the rules that are flawed, not the required implementation of them.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // There can be no justice when rules are absolute. //

That remark is going to haunt you the very next time you arrive on site to rage against some 'lenient' judge or other who has allowed the 'non-absolute' rules to free a criminal you believe should be swinging from a rope by morning.

You can't have it both ways.

[ToraToraTora]

"The reality is, as others have advised, rules are made for the safety of everyone, and the attendant will have been instructed to enforce them. " - so why has he and his employers apologised?

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // "The reality is, as others have advised, rules are made for the safety of everyone, and the attendant will have been instructed to enforce them. " - so why has he and his employers apologised? //

With the level of compassion that is a intrinsic part of what they do, I am sure the attendant and his employers are aware of the upset they have been forced to cause, and be human enough to feel sorry about it, even though that does not alter their requirement to do as instructed.

People enforce rules all day every day, they may not necessarily agree with all of them, and they may feel personally sorry that they are doing so, and say so, but that does not exempt them from following the rules in the first place.

[Mozz71]

Perhaps they apologised, not for enforcing the rules, but for the callous way it was done?

[youngmafbog]

I'm surprised he wasnt chinned given the circumstances and emotion at the time.

Unfortunately we have now become surrounded by brownshirts. Goebbels would have been amazed at how easy we have given up our freedoms to be ruled by people like this. He had quite a struggle to do it.

[jno]

supermarkets didn't enforce the rules in their own shops, the council gave them a warning, and the council has been ticked off by the government.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/05/row-after-london-council-is-warned-off-enforcing-mask-rules-in-shops

So are these rules, laws, advice, or just something the government can announce then encourage people to ignore? The situation is ridiculous.