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Mobile Phone Data Messages.
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I'm hoping someone knows more about mobile phones than I do.
Data messages. Are they stored, prior to sending, on the handset or on the SIM card ?
I ask because I don't have mobile data (won't bore you with the details) but it seems on one or more occasions the phone has, totally unbidden and without prior permission, changed a text message (which would have sent) into a data message (which obviously won't).
This has resulted in months of continuous warnings about not being able to send the rogue message (surprise surprise) coming up on the screen over the top of whatever I'm trying to look at/interact with. It's quite beyond reasonable endurance.
I have been in contact with Samsung error report technicians, but Samsung have proved utterly useless. Over the months, they take near forever between their responses and if they come up with anything it isn't a valid solution as it either suggests nothing, or suggests I speak to my service supplier to see what is wrong with the data service. I've told them time & time & time again there is nothing wrong with it, I simply don't have nor want mobile data, just the normal service & WiFi, and they need to explain how I can remove data messages their design of phone created. But it just doesn't sink in.
So I had a thought. If I could get someone else, who does have mobile data, to plug their SIM in to my phone, would the rogue messages go, or will they no longer be there but on my SIM ? Or worse, are they stored somewhere on the network !?! (I can't see how they can be given there is no mobile data to move them to the net.)
Cheers.
Data messages. Are they stored, prior to sending, on the handset or on the SIM card ?
I ask because I don't have mobile data (won't bore you with the details) but it seems on one or more occasions the phone has, totally unbidden and without prior permission, changed a text message (which would have sent) into a data message (which obviously won't).
This has resulted in months of continuous warnings about not being able to send the rogue message (surprise surprise) coming up on the screen over the top of whatever I'm trying to look at/interact with. It's quite beyond reasonable endurance.
I have been in contact with Samsung error report technicians, but Samsung have proved utterly useless. Over the months, they take near forever between their responses and if they come up with anything it isn't a valid solution as it either suggests nothing, or suggests I speak to my service supplier to see what is wrong with the data service. I've told them time & time & time again there is nothing wrong with it, I simply don't have nor want mobile data, just the normal service & WiFi, and they need to explain how I can remove data messages their design of phone created. But it just doesn't sink in.
So I had a thought. If I could get someone else, who does have mobile data, to plug their SIM in to my phone, would the rogue messages go, or will they no longer be there but on my SIM ? Or worse, are they stored somewhere on the network !?! (I can't see how they can be given there is no mobile data to move them to the net.)
Cheers.
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.Ok, switched my SIM with my woman's SIM for a short period. Looking at the Messages app, there was some nonsense added in our conversation about a message due to time out next month sometime. This seemed very odd so I clicked on it and was offered the chance to download it ?!?!?!
It downloaded twice, once on my side of the conversation, once on my woman's side of the conversation (she says she's never seen it). Looks like something I probably tried to send her, but the inexplicable bit is that it looks a medium sized text (293 characters apparently, nowhere near the 480 that it should cope with) all just text, yet at the side it CLAIMS to be MMS not SMS. How the heck can it choose to be MMS when it's been given no indication whatsoever that it should EVER have anything to do with MMS ?
Anyway, I can't be sure the issue has been solved, I can only wait and see if the warning no longer appears. And whether switching the SIMs has changed anything. (I've not noticed anything so far.)
What gets to me is how utterly useless Samsung Support was though. All they ever did was a combination of nothing, and the occasional suggestion of me asking my service supplier to sort the data connection, before closing the ticket. No real solution at all.
Anyway fingers crossed all is well, but I'm not holding my breath.
It downloaded twice, once on my side of the conversation, once on my woman's side of the conversation (she says she's never seen it). Looks like something I probably tried to send her, but the inexplicable bit is that it looks a medium sized text (293 characters apparently, nowhere near the 480 that it should cope with) all just text, yet at the side it CLAIMS to be MMS not SMS. How the heck can it choose to be MMS when it's been given no indication whatsoever that it should EVER have anything to do with MMS ?
Anyway, I can't be sure the issue has been solved, I can only wait and see if the warning no longer appears. And whether switching the SIMs has changed anything. (I've not noticed anything so far.)
What gets to me is how utterly useless Samsung Support was though. All they ever did was a combination of nothing, and the occasional suggestion of me asking my service supplier to sort the data connection, before closing the ticket. No real solution at all.
Anyway fingers crossed all is well, but I'm not holding my breath.