Can I add one more thing that I hope will simplify things (but may also confuse you).
Windows builds up the "All programs" list from 2 places (it combines them).
First is what Windows calls "All users". These are menu options that will appear on ALL USERS menus (if more than one person uses the computer).
Next is for an individual user (lets call him Fred). User Fred may have items that appear on HIS menu, that dont appear on other people menu.
So users Freds "All programs" will be a combination of "All Users" and "Fred".
If you are going to combine items into groups you need to make sure you do it for "All Users" as well as "Fred".
So when I asked you to select "Open All Users" in the first append, that was of course opening the folder for All Users (as you would expect).
What you can also do is right click and select Open (not Open All Users). This will open your individual set of "All Programs". You can then sort these into folders.
This may explain the layout of the Start menu better
http://www.windows-he...s-xp-start-menu2.html