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Gromit | 22:17 Mon 18th Oct 2010 | News
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One of the Navy’s new £3 billion aircraft carriers will never carry aircraft and will sail for only three years before being mothballed and possibly sold, ministers will announce on Tuesday.


http://www.telegraph....never-carry-jets.html

The Government’s Strategic Defence and Security Review will also confirm that Britain will not have an effective “carrier strike” capability – a working aircraft carrier equipped with fighter jets – until 2020.

Have the Government gone too far and are they gambling with our safety.
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Aren't all our wars fought in desert/mountain terrains these days? I'm sure aircraft carriers will come in very handy....
Lets hope no-one turns nasty until 2020. I think they have gone too far, Being an island race defence is vital to us.
Typical - but what else do you expect from this tory Government .
This seems to have been formulated on the back of a fag packet .

Anyway , dont worry , our Knights in shining armour will come a galloping to our assistance , in a crisis .
Who ? , I hear you say - our cousins across the pond , of course !!
Our cousins across the pond have a nasty habit of shooting the allies in "friendly fire" as it so nicely called. I don't have a lot of faith in them tbh.
Has Gromit metamorphosed into AOG? Only asking!
Mike I'm not falling for this one then.
LOL Gran. Glad someone's got a sense of humour.
Who is going to attack us and with what? What would we use aircraft carriers for? To keep the Falklands?
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fredpuli47

Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself. The last time this happened was 1982 when the Government announced it had flogged HMS Invincible to the Australians. Two months later, British Territory was invaded, and the Aircraft Carrier played a major role in winning getting it back.

The sale of HMS Invicible was cancelled, and she played a major role in the Battle for Basra in the Iraq conflict.
We've been warriors long enough; this teeny island is weary.
Er exactly how does an Aircraft carrier help in defending this country?

If you want to defend the Pitcain Islands or Saint Helena go build defenses there now before they're invaded

Aircraft carriers are uniquely aggressive weapons cutting back in fighting foreign wars should be something we ought all to be able to agree on.

Apart obviously from AOG who wants to spend fortunes on the armed service but wants to evacuate them the moment there's a fatality
I would have thought this would have been great news for the left anti war brigade on this site.

And wont they have helicopters ? Thats an aircraft.

Personally I cant see the need for aircraft carriers at all. With laser guided misiles they are a huge sitting target.
terambulan

/// We've been warriors long enough; this teeny island is weary.///

Good job we didn't take this attitude back in 1939.
I know AOG

It's like those treasonous defeatists who want to pull our troops out of places like Afghanistan the moment a soldier gets hurt.

You don't know anyone like that do you?
Hang on I thought all you lefties hated the forces and could see no need for defence because "who's going to threaten us?" - so you should be delighted with defence cuts all round.
jake-the-peg

You can't leave me alone even before I have had my say.

Well here is my two-pennies worth.

/// Apart obviously from AOG who wants to spend fortunes on the armed service but wants to evacuate them the moment there's a fatality ///

Once again you twist my words and use them out of context so as to try and get your own point over.

I do not believe in starving our troops of the very best equipment that money can buy, this of course includes paying them the going rate equivalent to other dangerous jobs that are paid in 'civvy street' also including decent accommodation for their wives and families.

I along with most I hope, do not wish to see fatalities especially when we are fighting a war on behalf of a foreign country.

Regarding getting rid of an Aircraft carrier along with their jets, this is ridiculous when the 'Argie Bargies' are still waiting to get their hands on a piece of Crown British Territories ie The Falklands.
The trend in warfare seems to be the sending of unmanned aircraft like drones. As these are a fraction of the costs of fighter aircraft could they not be deployed on the aircraft-free carriers?
I am pleased to see cuts in the riddiculous armed forces purchases Geezer - I've expressed dismay about these riddiculous aircraft carriers on here before.

AOG If you're worried about the Falklands they should be properly defended (if they're worth it) now - not retaken with aircraft carriers after the event.

What's absurd was the decision to build these in the first place - we now have to build them and sell them because it's too expensive to back out of the contracts!

Here's a novel idea we should spend the defense budget in defending the UK

Not in building things to fight wars thousands of miles away

It'll never catch on
/// AOG If you're worried about the Falklands they should be properly defended (if they're worth it) now - not retaken with aircraft carriers after the event.///

Obviously you know very little about military strategy, how can you properly defend the Falklands?

Are you suggesting that one moors a Aircraft carrier complete with aircraft and crew, off the coast of the Islands 24 hours, 7days, 52 weeks of the year, thousands of miles away from it's home port?

If we had battalions upon battalions of land troops stationed permanently on the Islands, we could not defend it from a country the size of Argentine with all the resources it possesses.

No the way to defend it is to have the necessary equipment and men available in the UK ready at a moments notice to head for the Falklands, on the information gathered from the security services.

That is the way that brilliant PM Mrs Thatcher carried out the task and won.
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Because it's much easier to storm well dug in defenses thousands of miles away
than to have well supplied permanent forces in the location in question

Not to mention sailing a fleet of ships take a slow leisurely trip down the Atlantic as a shooting gallery for all and sundry

Sheffield and Coventry ring any bells?

You really are a bufoon aren't you?

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