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Rail Strikes Looming
Ahead of crippling walkouts, figures show that staff are paid 70 per cent above the national average. The average wage for a rail worker is £44,000 per annum and almost a third of all people working on the railways pay tax at the higher rate, meaning they earn more than £50,000.
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Does anyone support them?
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Does anyone support them?
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How can any right minded person support this strike which is led by communist indoctrinated union bosses.The ,mind boggles at some of the work practices of railway employees:-
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Despite being a Labour supporter I accept the unavoidable fact that inflation is only made worse by higher wages. It’s a sad fact.
So regardless of what they currently earn, no I don’t support this.
There is a case for ensuring people in vital care industries are paid enough to keep them in the profession tho. Otherwise we’re going against the “levelling up by higher wages “(remember that?!) principle in a particularly destructive way
So regardless of what they currently earn, no I don’t support this.
There is a case for ensuring people in vital care industries are paid enough to keep them in the profession tho. Otherwise we’re going against the “levelling up by higher wages “(remember that?!) principle in a particularly destructive way
There are two ways of looking at the “valuable workers” aspect:
“You’ll lose us for good if you don’t pay us enough” - fair point
“We can make life hell if you don’t pay us enough” - something approaching blackmail
Are these people going to look for different jobs if they don’t get what they ask for?
Maybe, but I’m doubtful
“You’ll lose us for good if you don’t pay us enough” - fair point
“We can make life hell if you don’t pay us enough” - something approaching blackmail
Are these people going to look for different jobs if they don’t get what they ask for?
Maybe, but I’m doubtful
Train drivers are required by law to be licenced and certified.
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the following explains in outline detail how this works in the UK
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training a driver is expensive and time consuming, and most train companies will seek to avoid that cost at, errr, all costs. the easiest way to get more drivers is to poach someone else's driver, and the easiest way to do that is offer more money. thus began, a few years ago, an escalating spiral of train companies chasing or trying to hang on to a scarce resource. and so it goes, round and round.
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the following explains in outline detail how this works in the UK
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training a driver is expensive and time consuming, and most train companies will seek to avoid that cost at, errr, all costs. the easiest way to get more drivers is to poach someone else's driver, and the easiest way to do that is offer more money. thus began, a few years ago, an escalating spiral of train companies chasing or trying to hang on to a scarce resource. and so it goes, round and round.
//Who wouldn't support people fighting to save their jobs?//
I wouldn't when they are providing a vital service which receives huge sums in public subsidies. But that aside, how can it help their cause to jeopardise rail services when the railways are already suffering a huge downturn in demand due to the pandemic? Many people who previously used railways to commute have found other ways of working and they will simply continue (or resume) working in those ways. The problem is that there are many people who have no choice but to commute to work (doctors, nurses, police, etc), which brings me back to my first point.
I wouldn't when they are providing a vital service which receives huge sums in public subsidies. But that aside, how can it help their cause to jeopardise rail services when the railways are already suffering a huge downturn in demand due to the pandemic? Many people who previously used railways to commute have found other ways of working and they will simply continue (or resume) working in those ways. The problem is that there are many people who have no choice but to commute to work (doctors, nurses, police, etc), which brings me back to my first point.
Based on the links, to be a train driver (in the UK), you need to be at least 20 years old and have had nine years of education (primary & secondary).
Even someone as old as me who began school at age 5 and could have finished schooling at age 16 would meet those requirements. There is no requirement to have gained any educational qualification, other than complete the specified training program.
So in fact my statement requires correcting to state (who do not have any qualifications gained at school).
Even someone as old as me who began school at age 5 and could have finished schooling at age 16 would meet those requirements. There is no requirement to have gained any educational qualification, other than complete the specified training program.
So in fact my statement requires correcting to state (who do not have any qualifications gained at school).
I'm not in support of the strikes but, having worked on the railways, I'll point out that it's really only train drivers that get (relatively) high salaries:
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possibly along with signallers
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Both jobs involve about a year of training, so they're far from being 'low skilled'.
However conductors and platform staff (who have to go through rather shorter, but still rigorous, training) earn far less than train drivers do, while still having to work unsocial hours.
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possibly along with signallers
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Both jobs involve about a year of training, so they're far from being 'low skilled'.
However conductors and platform staff (who have to go through rather shorter, but still rigorous, training) earn far less than train drivers do, while still having to work unsocial hours.
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