where can i get a doberman

[SCHUMI]

my husband and i have been trying for two years to get a doberman puppy approx. 9wks and undocked.have easier time selling snow to eskimos.dobie rescue won't and don't help and i have been let down by a few breeders.i am not willing to pay hundreds of �'s for it as i believe that money can be spent on it's vet bills best of food and all a puppy needs.
i have no intention of showing or breeding from the dog all we want is a loving pet and companion to my other dog.i do have an agility dog so that door may be open to the new pup but first and foremost i want a pet.
the dog must not be docked or have dew claws removed.i want it as it is born and why is this causing so many problems??? it a simple plea. can anybody help???

[Ethel]

Doberman pups fetch good money and people are prepared to pay.

Why should a breeder just 'give' one to you?

I'm surprised the rescue centre aren't prepared to help you if you are offering a good home and realise you will have vets fees and other expenses to pay.

Ive just done a quick google search and found a few puppies that fit your requirements - not 'show quality' but they are still selling for upwards of �400.

[SCHUMI]

i am prepared to pay for one at a decent and reasonable price.i phoned a breeder and he wanted �600 upfront!!!! he was going to give me his bank details to deposit the money and then we would get notifyed of the pups birth! as for rescue i phoned them and i got offered a 2yr old bitch but i would have to get rid of my cats first as didn't like them.i have had dogs all my life and prefer the large breeds.the hardest part is the undocked part.it is necessary to find a bitch that is pregnant first because of my objections to docking. thanx for your google search i will pop onto it.

[kita1]

Make sure that any breeder has done all the usual health checks for the doberman breed. Please don't make the fact that it is undocked the only requirement.

I would never pay up front for a pup that is not even born! I would not even put a deposite on a pup that is not born.

It cannot be that hard to find a doberman, have you tried RSPCA homes and other general rescue's? Many of them are desperate to find homes for larger guarding breeds. I am sure places like Manchester Dogs home and Battersea etc. could possibly help you.

I can understand you want an undocked pup but like I say it is not worth getting an undocked pup and finding out it has serious hip problems or other things wrong with it, that are hereditary.

I have bought non show quality pups in the past, as I do not show, but you still expect to pay only slightly less for them, as they still cost the same to rear and plan and the parents still have the same health checks. Most caring breeders will not let their pups go for nothing, and I would be suspicious of getting a pup for very little as I would wonder what was the matter with it. I would not expect a healthy, well bred pup to have any vets bills!

Also, there are a number of breed rescues for Doberman, try more than one.

[lankeela]

As Kital says, it costs the same to breed and rear a 'pet' quality puppy as it does a 'show' quality one, so there should be very little difference in price. If you take into account buying the mother, rearing, vaccinations, food, showing costs if it is a show dog, stud fee, feeding an in whelp bitch, vets fees, hip scoring, health checks for inherited diseases etc etc breeding dogs is not a money making game unless you do it on the cheap which is when problems arise.

If you want an undocked dog, be prepared to pay for it if not in advance, as soon as it is born, as most breeders would not be willing to keep an undocked puppy for you in case you changed your mind, because most people want a dog to look like the breed they are buying and undocked Dobermanns look like a crossbreed to most people.

Someone near me had a litter of undocked Rottweilers, she still had eight of them at 15 weeks, because no-one wanted them! She ended up almost giving them away and has said she will never breed another litter of undocked pups again, she thought that was what everyone wanted.

Also most breeders remove dew claws for the good of the dog, as they can cause horrendous pain and bleed profusely if torn.

If you take the life of the dog into consideration, say an average of ten years, at a cost of �500, that is only �50 a year, or less than �1 a week - isn't a well bred healthy lifelong companion worth that to you?

[noxlumos]

I can understand your objections to docking if you were buying a new born pup, but with a dog that's desperately in need of a home that is in a resuce, I really can't understand your objection. It's not the dog's fault it's docked so maybe if you widened your search criteria then you'd have more chance. We had a German Pointer who was docked when we had him from a rescue, a lovely, happy dog that was a joy to own. I wouldn't have docked him had I had him "from scratch" but he was as he was when he came to us so that was fine.

[xjenaferx]

Call me blonde.... what the heck does undocked mean?

[meltoadhall]

the dobermans and boxers etc that you see with the little stubby tails were born with the same length tails that most other dogs have.
having the tails removed is docked, not removed, undocked.

[xjenaferx]

Ahhhhh,,, thank you Meltoad.... got it :]