Live Debate Going On Now Over Tax Credits, In The House Of Lords !

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-34636013

[mikey4444]

The Tories have really cocked things up, if they now face the wrath of the House of Lords !

[mikey4444]

Anyone who thinks that the House of Lords are just a load of old buffers, dozing on the red leather benches should have a look at the live debate going on, in the link I have provided !.....Its really sparky !

Recommend it to everybody !

[Jackdaw33]

The Tories are in a minority in the Lords since Tony packed with his cronies.

[youngmafbog]

//Anyone who thinks that the House of Lords are just a load of old buffers, //

Nope it's a bunch of unelected lefties.

Is that democracy, mind you labour have history in this by forcing through legislation under the Parliament Act - twice.

[mikey4444]

Norman Tebbit...a leftie !

[youngmafbog]

OK then, I'll correct my post, although I have a sneaking suspicion you know what I mean :-)

"Nope it's a majority bunch of unelected lefties"

[TWR]

I can not understand why the likes of Amazon can get away with low taxes & yet the Government are trying to get this through, something wrong some where.

[jourdain2]

I don't agree with the current proposals on Tax Credits, but I do think that measures should be phased in so that people pay less tax, keep more of what they earn and so don't have to get the Credits in the first place!

I can't, however, agree that the House of Lords has any constitutional right to overturn a Commons vote on a Financial matter - I listened to an expert on the subject today. A motion of 'Regret' (is that what it is called?) regarding the Bill would make the Commons reassess.

[Gavmacp]

What I don't understand is the Tories say that they want don't want to make people under tax credits worse off. So if they are serious they will have to not take 30 billion in tax to make sure this happens. They say we can't afford Labour's tax credit burden but how can they afford to take 30 Billion less in tax?

[Islay]

It is silly that we are topping people up in this manner - work 16 hours a week and do nothing else and have a couple of children - don't worry we will give you more money.
Run a business but don't make a profit? Don't worry we will give you some extra money!

[Jomlett]

Peers vote to delay implementation of tax credit cuts by majority of 30...